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Simon Phoenix 04-16-2007 03:28 AM

Is Cro Cop The Most Overrated Fighter In MMA At The Moment?
 
It's been well documented on this forum that in my opinion Ken Shamrock is the most overrated fighter of all time.. but what is it about this Cro Cop guy that makes him so great?

Sure he has pretty good KO power.. but there's more to MMA then how hard you can kick someone in the head. I'v studied tapes of his fights from Pride over the years and there's no way he's gonna be able to dominate the superior fighters of the UFC the way he did in Japan. His ground game is terrible, and from what i'v seen he has a terrible chin too. Even the first fighter he fought in the UFC said his kicks didnt hurt as bad as they make them out to be.. i guaruntee you he wouldnt be able to last a round if he got thrown into the octagon with Chuck. If he fights Randy, he'll get submitted in 2 rounds. You can quote me on that too.

Judoka 04-16-2007 03:35 AM

Are you asking to get assassinated?


Cro Cop is a great fighter.

Simon Phoenix 04-16-2007 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Judokas
Are you asking to get assassinated?


Cro Cop is a great fighter.

Noones denying that he's a great striker. But do you really think he's well rounded enough to hang with the top contenders in the UFC?

Judoka 04-16-2007 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon Phoenix
Noones denying that he's a great striker. But do you really think he's well rounded enough to hang with the top contenders in the UFC?

Yes...PRIDE's heavyweight division was much better than the UFC's

Hes a kickboxer just like Royce Gracie is a BJJ guy, hes a UFC hall of famer and he isn't to well rounded.

js9234 04-16-2007 03:48 AM

He does seem somewhat overrated but I think he will do very well in the UFC. He's not just gonna walk over everyone like Pride fans think. I'm not even sure if he CAN beat Couture like a lot of people think. Not poking fun at Pride but it seems the fans from Pride don't think Pride fighters can be beat by any UFC fighters. It also goes vice versa too though. I like both organizations and don't care where they are from as long as they come to fight.

Judoka 04-16-2007 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by js9234
He does seem somewhat overrated but I think he will do very well in the UFC. He's not just gonna walk over everyone like Pride fans think. I'm not even sure if he CAN beat Couture like a lot of people think. Not poking fun at Pride but it seems the fans from Pride don't think Pride fighters can be beat by any UFC fighters. It also goes vice versa too though. I like both organizations and don't care where they are from as long as they come to fight.

Im not a Pride fan or a UFC fan im just a MMA fan and i think Cro Cop can and will beat Randy.

carlitoss2000 04-16-2007 03:51 AM

You must be on crack or something.

Fedor>all 04-16-2007 03:54 AM

Randy has never faced anyone like Crocop, except maybe Chuck and really CC is a much better overall striker than the Iceman.

To say Mirko is overrated is ridiculous though. His only losses are to Fedor, Mark Hunt, Big Nog and Kevin Randleman.

He's beaten Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett 3x, Aleksander Emelianenko, etc..

He's definitely not overrated, he deserves all the credit he gets.

Amazing sprawl and ridiculous striking, he's entertaining with every fight.

wukkadb 04-16-2007 03:54 AM

What fights show CC having a shitty ground game? You mean the fight where he held Fedor in his guard the whole time and barely got scratched up at all? OOOOh

carlitoss2000 04-16-2007 03:57 AM

You're just trying to get people to tell you how retarded your comments are. Fighters often fight according to their strenght. Striking and kicking are his strenghts so that's what he does. The same with chuck, he strikes because he knows it's easier for him to knock you out than trying to out wrestle you.

PRIDE RULES!!!


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