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Old 04-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Tony Halme(Ludvig Borga), Bam Bam Bigelow, and Mark Jindrak were all "beasts" that tried to step in and they all lost.
it was O'Haire, not Jindrak (he's still wrestling in mexico).
Sean O'Haire had a decent 4-2 run in japan's mma circut... but he's crazy and can't keep himself from beating up people in bars, so it's probably for the best, honestly.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:00 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:12 PM   #83 (permalink)
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We all remember big bad Brock reaking havoc in the he div,
Actually, I don't

Lost to Mir (A fight Brock WAS winning)
Beat Herring, who was an injury replacement
Beat Couture (smallish heavyweight nearing retirement)
Beat Mir (quality win)
Beat Carwin (not-as-quality win)
Lost to Velasquez
Lost to Overeem (Who had chemical assistace.

A decent record, but I put that down to a weak HW division, and collegiate wrestling.

You're asking which one of a bunch of glorified stuntmen could fight for real. My answer is pretty much none of them. professional wrestling is CHOREOGRAPHED. You've never seen any of those guys actually fight. They're ACTORS.

The UFC might cherry-pick a wrestler or two, but they can't afford the idea that any match is fixed, and ALL pro wrestling matches are fixed. The UFC can't go there.

Next time you need surgery, get the guy who says "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV". Let us know how that works our for you.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:33 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Actually, I don't

Lost to Mir (A fight Brock WAS winning)
Beat Herring, who was an injury replacement
Beat Couture (smallish heavyweight nearing retirement)
Beat Mir (quality win)
Beat Carwin (not-as-quality win)
Lost to Velasquez
Lost to Overeem (Who had chemical assistace.

A decent record, but I put that down to a weak HW division, and collegiate wrestling.

You're asking which one of a bunch of glorified stuntmen could fight for real. My answer is pretty much none of them. professional wrestling is CHOREOGRAPHED. You've never seen any of those guys actually fight. They're ACTORS.

The UFC might cherry-pick a wrestler or two, but they can't afford the idea that any match is fixed, and ALL pro wrestling matches are fixed. The UFC can't go there.

Next time you need surgery, get the guy who says "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV". Let us know how that works our for you.

I have seen some of them fight.

So have you.

Of course it's fake, everyone knows that.t you aren't breaking any news here bro,

And yes Brock lost 2 fights after surgery for a life threatening illness, don't forget about that caveat.

I think the fact that they are big, strong dudes, with great cardio, who oftentimes have a background in martial arts makes it an entertaining question.

Also the fact that many of the guys have interchanged between the promotions, pretending like there is no relation there makes you seem dense and I wouldn't recommend it on a public forum.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:43 PM   #85 (permalink)
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And yes Brock lost 2 fights after surgery for a life threatening illness, don't forget about that caveat.
It's having no impact on his acting, i mean professional wrestling career. Because fighting and acting are two different things.
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I think the fact that they are big, strong dudes, with great cardio, who oftentimes have a background in martial arts makes it an entertaining question.
You have no idea what there cardio is. Stage combat is MUCH easier than actual combat. I've done both, and fighting is much, much harder.
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Also the fact that many of the guys have interchanged between the promotions,
A few guys have interchanged between promotions, and only one (Brock) went from po wrestling to a high level mma promotion. (I'm leaving Pride out of this because some of their matches were 'arranged'). A few guys have gone FROM mma to pro wrestling, (Tank Abbott, Frank Shamrock) but that's going from athletics to acting, not the other way.

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pretending like there is no relation there makes you seem dense and I wouldn't recommend it on a public forum.
Interesting. To me, believing there's a relation between fighting and acting makes YOU seem dense. Only it's too late for you not to do it in a public forum.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #86 (permalink)
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There are two things that immediately come to mind in "discussions" like this one.

1/ PED's are banned in the UFC, and are tested for. That would likely eliminate roughly 99% of the guys crossing over from the muscle-soaps.

2/ It's all fun and games until someone gets punched in the mouth real, real hard. Guys can train all they want, but there's a small percentage of the population that can keep getting tagged and still come back for more.

I'd say that would eliminate the remaining 1%.

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Old 04-18-2013, 06:09 PM   #87 (permalink)
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It's having no impact on his acting, i mean professional wrestling career. Because fighting and acting are two different things.
You have no idea what there cardio is. Stage combat is MUCH easier than actual combat. I've done both, and fighting is much, much harder.
A few guys have interchanged between promotions, and only one (Brock) went from po wrestling to a high level mma promotion. (I'm leaving Pride out of this because some of their matches were 'arranged'). A few guys have gone FROM mma to pro wrestling, (Tank Abbott, Frank Shamrock) but that's going from athletics to acting, not the other way.

Interesting. To me, believing there's a relation between fighting and acting makes YOU seem dense. Only it's too late for you not to do it in a public forum.
So just to be clear,
Your points are,

1) going through a life threatening illness twice that requires two MAJOR surgeries, one of which at least involved removing a large portion of a persons colon has no bearing on your ability to win a cage match against some the greatest fighters the planet earth has ever seen.

2) there is no evidence that people who do choreographed acrobatics and work on their physique for a living in order to entertain arenas full o people with matches that can last up to an hour have good cardio

3) the simple fact that several participants from both mma and pro wrestling have interchanged promotions is not relevant because you decided pride doesn't count, because it was in fact, too similar to pro wrestling.

4) and lastly, that here is no plausible reason to relate pro wrestling to mma because of above points

Wow dude, wow.
That's some radical stuff.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:59 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I don't get the point of the argument... why are you two going at it?
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:07 PM   #89 (permalink)
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He thinks that the thread is useless because there is absolutely no correlation between mma and pro wrestling.

I think it's an entertaining question to have fun with, but also that there is a very clear connection

That's basically it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:05 PM   #90 (permalink)
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So just to be clear,
Your points are,

1) going through a life threatening illness twice that requires two MAJOR surgeries, one of which at least involved removing a large portion of a persons colon has no bearing on your ability to win a cage match against some the greatest fighters the planet earth has ever seen.
My point is quite the opposite. Of course it affects fighting. It doesn't affect ACTING.

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2) there is no evidence that people who do choreographed acrobatics and work on their physique for a living in order to entertain arenas full o people with matches that can last up to an hour have good cardio
Actually, no that isn't evidence they have good cardio, as actual fighting measure cardio. There's a LOT of rest time in those choreographed fights, rest you don;t get in a real fight.

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3) the simple fact that several participants from both mma and pro wrestling have interchanged promotions is not relevant because you decided pride doesn't count, because it was in fact, too similar to pro wrestling.
You got several things wrong on that one.

I decided not to discuss Pride because there's no way to know how many of their fights were fixed.

'several participants from both mma and pro wrestling' have NOT 'interchanged promotions'. Several people have gone from mma to pro wrestling. ONE has gone from pro wrestling to mma with any success.

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4) and lastly, that here is no plausible reason to relate pro wrestling to mma because of above points
I've done mma, amateur wrestling, stage combat and stuntwork. I'm also a longtime fan of professional wrestling. (I like seeing stuntmen get paid.) But mma and professional wrestling is literally the difference between reality and pretense.

If you find that radical, check out Wonder Bread. The real world has some amazing stuff.

Then again, if the threads all in fun, I'm sure Roger Federer would do well in mma. Tennis players have great cardio.
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