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Old 07-18-2007, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ufc Screws Up Again..

In an earlier post, I hoped for a Shogun vs. Liddell fight but then the thought of Wandy/Liddell killed that but now that Wandy aint ready for that fight, why is the UFC robbing its fans of a great Shogun/Liddell fight that could 100% happen. Instead, Dana White's puppet, Chuck Liddell is going to fight Keith "stepping stone" Jardine and Shogun is fighting an exciting Forrest Griffin. As exciting as Forrest Griffin is though, he will get killed equally as exciting...
** DANA WHITE, PLEASE STOP BABYING CHUCK LIDDELL AND CUTTING PRIDE FIGHTERS SHORT.. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE JARDINE AS A SACRAFICIAL LAMB ON THE ROAD TO LIDELLS TITLE SHOT. SHOGUN IS THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER WITHIN PRIDE RULES AND REG.(besides fedor ofcourse) AND HE SHOULD BE IN THE HUNT WITH LIDDELL AND HENDO**

WAR SHOGUN!!!!
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hm... be funny as shit if Jardin wins tho.. so it can backfire to Dana's plan for Chuck to get a shot at the title.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I bet if Liddell somehow gets the title, Rampage isn't going to get a Title shot for fear of Chuck getting Ko'd again :/
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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chuck could take rampage, rampage just landed a nice shot is all.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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chuck could take rampage, rampage just landed a nice shot is all.
how many times does rampage have to beat chuck for people like you to realize he is the better fighter?
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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chuck could take rampage, rampage just landed a nice shot is all.
Chuck can't handle other Strikers, I'm not saying his striking sucks, far from it, in fact I think he's in the top 5 considering striking, but he's dwindled on the fact that he's only fought wrestlers. Any striker will pose a threat to his reign, besides Jardine
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I have to agree with the thread starter! Liddell vs. Jardine sucks balls. Its another one of those confidence booster fights like Matt Hughes vs. Chris Lytle and Rich Franklin vs. Jason MacDonald. I hate these types of fights. Where are all these superfights Dana has been promising us since PRIDE was bought?
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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chuck could take rampage, rampage just landed a nice shot is all.
...I'm sorry to break this to you if you are a Liddell fan, and if you feel like you are the leader of the "iceman bandwagon" then I'm sorry to crush your dreams - BUT - Liddell's strength is inevitably gonna be his greatest weekness... His kempo fighting style has proved to be dominant in the takedown defense and counter punching areas. Fighting with his hands low to his waist and with his weight on that dragging back foot has destroyed elite ground fighters. (see Tito and Cotoure) Against Rampage, it really hurt him. When he fights a fighter that is a pure striker, that world-class takedown defense is null and void and those low hands expose a target for bombs. (see Rampage 1&2, and future Wandy or Shogun fights) I aint a Pride d;(k rider nor a Liddell hater but I am a MMA/fight fan and it is what I see from outside the octagon.
..IT IS FIGHTING 101, THE FIRST THING YOU LEARN, KEEP YOUR HANDS UP OR YOU WILL GET HIT IN THE FACE. A GREAT JAW WILL ONLY TAKE YOU SO FAR. (see Forrest Griffin and Chris Leben)....
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm going to play devil's advocate on this one...There is no doubt that from a fans perspective that Chuck/Wandi is the desire fight...but from a purely business point of view that is not an optimal fight. There are to many risks involved. Chuck just lost his belt to Rampage...If Wandi whoops his ass then Dana's cash cow isn't going to bring in as much cash. On the other hand, As the UFC is introducing the pride fighters that the lay mma fan has no idea the last thing the UFC wants to see is Wandi get crushed by Chuck. Yes, if Chuck beats him than we will read all about his road to redemption in ESPN the magazine. BUT, the UFC will have to stack Wandi's loss on top of Cro Cop's loss. The UFC has spent a lot of money to promote the arrival Pride fighters. The super-bout we all want to see is to high risk from Dana's point of view. If Wandi were to lose how hard would it be to convince the average fan that doesn't know a lot about the sport that the arrival of Fedor is a HUGE deal (and Shogun)? Hate to say it, but the super bouts we have all been dreaming about for years are going to have to work through the business channels. But I still hope and dream about that fight.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:36 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The reason why there not gonna give Liddell Vs Shogun rite now is for 2 reasons:

1) They want Liddell to win his next match, a fight with Shogun does not really promise that.

2) The average UFC fan doesnt have a ****in clue who Shogun is, makes more sense for Shogun to build up his reputation inside the UFC before making that fight.
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