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Old 08-06-2007, 01:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Tim Sylvia LOVE & APPRECIATION Thread

Now come on guys, sit around in a circle, pass the OFFICIAL MMAForum pipe and we'll talk about Tim Sylvia and why he's really not such a bad guy.

Tim Sylvia really gets so much hate here and I see a lot of silly reasoning for it. "He's ugly", "He pooped himself", "he's not an exciting fighter".

When I see comments like these made by posters I often wonder how many Tim Sylvia fights they've actually seen.

Lets have a look here..

Notable wins over:

Jeff Monson (Decision)
Andrei Arlovski x2 (Decision and TKO)
Assuerio Silva (Decision)
Tra Telligman (KO)
Mike Block (TKO)
Wes Sims (TKO)
Gan McGee (TKO)
Ricco Rodriguez (TKO)
Wesley Correira (Corner Stoppage)
Jeff Gerlick (TKO)
Mike Whitehead (TKO)
Jason Lambert (TKO)
Boyd Ballard (KO)
Mike Whitehead (TKO)
Matt Fremmbling (Decision)
Gino De La Cruz (TKO)
Ernest Henderson (TKO)
Greg Wikan x2 (Submission) and (TKO)
Ben Rothwell (Decision)
Gabe Beauperthy (Submission)
Randy Durant (TKO)


Pray tell how Tim Sylvia is crap? Out of 26 fights he has 23 victories.

15/23 have ended via TKO or KO.
2/23 have ended via submission.
5/23 have gone to decision.
1/23 have ended via Corner Stoppage.


Now lets look at Tim's ONLY losses:

Frank Mir (Referee stoppage due to injury)
Andrei Arlovski (Submission)
Randy Couture (Decision)


Notice a trend? Tim Sylvia has only lost 3 times and the guys he was fighting certainly weren't chumps. All 3 were UFC champions at one point in their careers.

Tim Sylvia whether you like him, his looks/personality or not is an exciting fighter to watch. He's never been KO'd he defended his belt multiple times against stiff competition and WON.

Feel free to post your thoughts on Tim. If you don't like him at least give some reasoning beyond the lame excuses that I've already dissected for their ignorance.

I for one can't wait for him to return to action.

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Old 08-06-2007, 01:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Real good point he has only lost in title fights I believe,

Personally I don't cheer for Tim I don't like him all that much but as a fighter he has one damn impressive resume. He outside of Fedor and Nogueira has the best record of any HW and he hasn't done it against chumps.

Tim Sylvia isn't a boring fighter no one who does what he did to Tra can be boring so I agree Tim Sylvia while I don't like him is completly underrated and is hated on to much.

Another note on his losses
Lost by injury to Mir, Was obivously injured against Couture he looked like he could barely move, and avenged the Arlovski loss twice so beside Nogueira and Fedor no one can really say they have had a better career then Tim record wise. (Randy has had a bigger impact on the sport.)
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Now come on guys, sit around in a circle, pass the OFFICIAL MMAForum pipe and we'll talk about Tim Sylvia and why he's really not such a bad guy.

Tim Sylvia really gets so much hate here and I see a lot of silly reasoning for it. "He's ugly", "He pooped himself", "he's not an exciting fighter".

When I see comments like these made by posters I often wonder how many Tim Sylvia fights they've actually seen.

Lets have a look here..

Notable wins over:

Jeff Monson (Decision)
Andrei Arlovski x2 (Decision and TKO)
Assuerio Silva (Decision)
Tra Telligman (KO)
Mike Block (TKO)
Wes Sims (TKO)
Gan McGee (TKO)
Ricco Rodriguez (TKO)
Wesley Correira (Corner Stoppage)
Jeff Gerlick (TKO)
Mike Whitehead (TKO)
Jason Lambert (TKO)
Boyd Ballard (KO)
Mike Whitehead (TKO)
Matt Fremmbling (Decision)
Gino De La Cruz (TKO)
Ernest Henderson (TKO)
Greg Wikan x2 (Submission) and (TKO)
Ben Rothwell (Decision)
Gabe Beauperthy (Submission)
Randy Durant (TKO)


Pray tell how Tim Sylvia is crap? Out of 26 fights he has 23 victories.

15/23 have ended via TKO or KO.
2/23 have ended via submission.
5/23 have gone to decision.
1/23 have ended via Corner Stoppage.


Now lets look at Tim's ONLY losses:

Frank Mir (Referee stoppage due to injury)
Andrei Arlovski (Submission)
Randy Couture (Decision)


Notice a trend? Tim Sylvia has only lost 3 times and the guys he was fighting certainly weren't chumps. All 3 were UFC champions at one point in their careers.

Tim Sylvia whether you like him, his looks/personality or not is an exciting fighter to watch. He's never been KO'd he defended his belt multiple times against stiff competition and WON.

Feel free to post your thoughts on Tim. If you don't like him at least give some reasoning beyond the lame excuses that I've already dissected for their ignorance.

I for one can't wait for him to return to action.

hes also an arrogant prick who at one point thought he could take fedor. he also (when he got the belt) fought NOT to loose instead of to win, not even talking about how boring his fights are, just his mindset. and hes also a disgusting pig, and thats not because of how he looks.

i highly dislike him because of his arrogant personality, his fighting style and how he acts. those are all valid reasons, are they not?
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Real good point he has only lost in title fights I believe,

Personally I don't cheer for Tim I don't like him all that much but as a fighter he has one damn impressive resume. He outside of Fedor and Nogueira has the best record of any HW and he hasn't done it against chumps.

Tim Sylvia isn't a boring fighter no one who does what he did to Tra can be boring so I agree Tim Sylvia while I don't like him is completly underrated and is hated on to much.

Another note on his losses
Lost by injury to Mir, Was obivously injured against Couture he looked like he could barely move, and avenged the Arlovski loss twice so beside Nogueira and Fedor no one can really say they have had a better career then Tim record wise. (Randy has had a bigger impact on the sport.)
looked like he could barely move? wrong, he didnt have a dibilitating injury thats just a crappy classless cover move he pulled. and like 22 of his wins are against cans, sides records in MMA matter about as much as music does to a deaf person.
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hes also an arrogant prick who at one point thought he could take fedor. he also (when he got the belt) fought NOT to loose instead of to win, not even talking about how boring his fights are, just his mindset. and hes also a disgusting pig, and thats not because of how he looks.

i highly dislike him because of his arrogant personality, his fighting style and how he acts. those are all valid reasons, are they not?
Man, you're just proving my point. Beyond his physical appearance and his personality, you have no grounds to say he sucks.

Even then Tim Sylvia's not THAT bad of a guy. Sure he says some silly things, but we have to remember we aren't talking to the fighters, the media is and words can be manipulated and different connotations can be drawn from them.

If Sylvia believes he can beat Fedor, good for him! People will never like Tim Sylvia because of the way he carries himself which he is entirely to blame for. However, the fact he always fights fan favourites (Arlovski and Couture) doesn't help his popularity with MMA fans.
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hes also an arrogant prick who at one point thought he could take fedor. he also (when he got the belt) fought NOT to loose instead of to win, not even talking about how boring his fights are, just his mindset. and hes also a disgusting pig, and thats not because of how he looks.

i highly dislike him because of his arrogant personality, his fighting style and how he acts. those are all valid reasons, are they not?
If he thinks he could beat Fedor wouldn't that be a good thing and show that he is more about keeping his title and he wants to be the best HW in the world. Yes he fought to keep his title but it wasn't like Randy Couture really looked to finish his fight with Tim and no one cared Tim sat there like an oaf since his back was obiviously busted and Randy really might have been able to charge foward but he never really did he just jabbed the whole fight.

Is he a jerk yes but people on this forum talk about him like he is a bad fighter and not a top 10 HW and that is just retarted. Tim Sylvia has beaten a lot of top fighters if you don't like him that's fine i don't really either but don't let that blur your judgement of his skill.
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looked like he could barely move? wrong, he didnt have a dibilitating injury thats just a crappy classless cover move he pulled. and like 22 of his wins are against cans, sides records in MMA matter about as much as music does to a deaf person.

Do you understand the hypocrisy in your statement? You're saying all the guys he fought were cans, yet you're turning around and saying records don't matter.

Cans are decided based mainly on their records in competition. Are you saying that those fighters are or are not cans? Because you're certainly contradicting yourself.
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looked like he could barely move? wrong, he didnt have a dibilitating injury thats just a crappy classless cover move he pulled. and like 22 of his wins are against cans, sides records in MMA matter about as much as music does to a deaf person.
Tim Sylvia might have taken about 4 steps in each round he never moved his feet and usually while he isn't limber in the cage he doesn't look that bad.
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Man, you're just proving my point. Beyond his physical appearance and his personality, you have no grounds to say he sucks.

Even then Tim Sylvia's not THAT bad of a guy. Sure he says some silly things, but we have to remember we aren't talking to the fighters, the media is and words can be manipulated and different connotations can be drawn from them.

If Sylvia believes he can beat Fedor, good for him! People will never like Tim Sylvia because of the way he carries himself which he is entirely to blame for. However, the fact he always fights fan favourites (Arlovski and Couture) doesn't help his popularity with MMA fans.
read my post again, i didnt say i dislike him because of his looks. i said i dislike him because of the way he acts.
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