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Old 01-22-2008, 07:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A shitload of excuses!

This past year we have seen a lot of that lately. Instead of people saying this guy was a better figther that night we usually get a shitload of excuses why that guy was able to beat the other guy the way they did.

The list of excuses.

Hendo def. Wanderlei Silva: Wanderlei had strep throat and was not fighting under normal Pride rules.

Matt Hughes def. BJ Penn: BJ broke his own ribs!

Randy Couture def. Tim Sylvia: Sylvia had a bad back.

Tim Sylvia def. Andrei Arlovski for the first time: it was a lucky punch!

Tim Sylvia def. Andrei Arlovski for a second time: Andrei had a broken foot.

Randy Couture def. Gabe Gonzaga: Gonzaga was untested even though he beaten Cro Cop, several other UFC heavyweights, and givin Werdum a run for his money.

Gonzaga def. Cro Cop: It was a fluke kick and it was Herb Deans fault. If this was Pride Cro Cop would have destroyed Gonzaga!

Anderson Silva def. Travis Lutter: Illegal Elbow strikes to the back of the head.

Kongo def. Cro Cop: Cro Cop had a broken rib (caused by a kick the Kongo threw) and got nailed in the balls twice. Even though Big John gave him time to recover from those strikes it still effected his performances to the point where he just completely sucked. Oh, and if this was in Pride Cro Cop would have won that fight!

Forrest def. Shogun: Shogun has a bad knee, he recently got married, he's not used to the cage, and if this was in Pride Shogun would have won!

and my personal favorite and the weakest excuse of all time:

Matt Serra def. GSP: It was a lucky punch.

New ones...

Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesner: Steve Mazzagatti screwed Lesner.

Wow, do people give credit to these fighters at all? That is a lot of victories being cheapen right there! What are your thoughts on all these excuses? Should excuses be even made in this sport?
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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People always seem to have an excuse on why Chuck Liddell beats his opponents to, like an excuse for BOTH of his wins over Randy. Excuses do get lame at times but of course people are gonna run their mouths, at least you can still feel the satisfaction that the fighter you wanted to win won regardless.
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i have an even worse one for the serra fight, "gsp wasn't strong mentally".

chuck liddell def wanderlei silva - silva let chuck get up. silva didn't go for the clinch. chuck got some cheap takedowns just so he could get points, if he was a real man he would have stood up the whole fight.

huerta def guida - lucky knee

michael bisping def matt hammil - IT WAS FIXED!!!

houstan alexander def keith jardine - jardine underestimated alexander.

jardine def chuck - chuck underestimated jardine. chuck was still rocked from the rampage fight.

(predicted excuses for future fights)

serra def gsp - lucky armbar!

fedor def couture - they didn't fight in a cage! randy aged too much this past year! he fought fedor!

sylvia def nog - lucky reach advantage! if nog would have got it to the floor he would have won!

lesnar def fedor - fedor slipped, landed on his head and fell unconscious, he would have won otherwise!

*random unknown fighter* def tank abbott - *random unknown fighter* trained, if he hadn't tank would have won!


bottom line is, as long as fighters have their own fans, there will ALWAYS be excuses.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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True enough.

My personal fav is the excuses that every GSP fan gives for his loss to Serra.

I remember visiting this forum after that fight and genuinely feeling sorry for some of the posters here. One guy made a thread saying that he felt "physically sick", and that it hurt him on a "different" level to watch GSP lose the way he did.

Everyone needs to go ahead and prepare because UFC 81 is quickly approaching, and you can bet there is going to be some seriously demented crap/excuses posted after that event.

Here is a preview:

Mir vs Lesnar if Lesnar wins: "Brock is the Fedor killer".
And if Mir wins: "Brock was overrated to begin with, I knew this already"

Tim vs Nog if Tim wins: "Tim is a boring fighter, Nog would have won under pride rules"

Tim vs Nog if Nog wins: "See!, I told you that Tim was overrated. He should quit with his stand and pray"...Etc..
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ok.

in my eyes, some excuses (however pathetic they sound) are somewhat acceptable.
things where a fighter is sick, can severely hinder a fighters ability. an injury a fighter sustained in training i believe is ok.

getting married... is NOT a good excuse, this coming from a huge shogun fan.

people that say so and so got a lucky punch and happened to catch another fighter, and that it was pure luck. so? they still won the fight. 9 our of 10 times the guy that was ko'd might have won, but that night, it was the one guy.
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My personal favorite is the Kongo/Mirko fight string of excuses.

"HURR, IT WUZ A BROK'D RIB" -Kongo broke it, just like Gonzaga broke his head.
"HURRR, BUT HE GOT NEED!1" -Yes, he was warned and Mirko barely took one minute to recover, he was fine.
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ok.

in my eyes, some excuses (however pathetic they sound) are somewhat acceptable.
things where a fighter is sick, can severely hinder a fighters ability. an injury a fighter sustained in training i believe is ok.

getting married... is NOT a good excuse, this coming from a huge shogun fan.

people that say so and so got a lucky punch and happened to catch another fighter, and that it was pure luck. so? they still won the fight. 9 our of 10 times the guy that was ko'd might have won, but that night, it was the one guy.
This is the best one. No-one is ever going to fight somone ten times. There is no way to backup this excuse.
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I agree with Josh. A lot of excuses are acceptable, but they also need ot man up and accept a loss and not be like 'omg if i didnt have strep throat I wouldve won!' well maybe you would have but you're an assaht and fought with strep throat, way to take one too many ice baths.

HOWEVER, when Nog beats SYlvia and Lesnar loses, I will be one of those guys saying they're overrated, but I've said that since I heard lesnar is coming to the UFC and since the first tiem I saw Tim fight so :P
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