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03-20-2008, 09:42 PM
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Frank Shamrock Claims Steroids Fried Ken's Mind
I saw this early today and thought it would be the hot topic of the day, but haven't seen it posted...so here it is...
So much for brotherly love.
Strikeforce world middleweight champion Frank Shamrock claims that his adoptive brother, UFC hall-of-famer Ken Shamrock, has done steroids "his whole life" and that the performance-enhacing drugs have given him a false sense of security.
When asked if he knew any fighters who were taking steroids, Frank mentioned only Ken.
"My brother Ken did them his whole life," Frank told MMA Madness. "Why do you think that his mind is so fried? Why do you think he crumbles before the big fights? He's got no psyche. He let steroids give him a false sense of security and the moment that stuff is gone he's no longer superman. He's just a regular man. But without all the hard work and without all the belief in himself that a regular man would have if he got up to that point. He's the only guy that I'll tell on, because he's always in trouble anyway.
MMAjunkie contacted one of Ken's representatives about the claims earlier today, and a response is expected to be issued soon.
It's worth noting, though, that Ken has never failed a drug test during an MMA event, and in recent years, the UFC almost always holds events in states in which drug testing is performed (though all fighters aren't always tested). However, fighters such as Dan Severn have long hinted that Ken uses steroids, and there's widespread speculation that Ken used during his days with the WWE.
Still, Frank gave no basis for his claims, nor did he mention any proof or specific instances in which he saw Ken use drugs.
Frank, who defends his Strikeforce title against Cung Le at next week's EliteXC/Strikeforce co-promotion, also spoke about the feud with his brother. The two have been estranged for a number of years, and Frank claims that it began when he decided to train on his own -- without the help of Ken. He said Ken was a "terrible teacher" and that jealousy over his own success caused the rift.
Both fighters have spoken openly about a potential fight, which would be billed as "brother vs. brother," taking place sometime in the next year. EliteXC live events president Gary Shaw said he'd be willing to promote it, but the brothers would likely produce it themselves.
Frank is eyeing an early 2009 fight date and said the bout would probably take place at 205 lbs.
With these latest claims, the fight probably got a whole lot more personal.
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03-20-2008, 10:51 PM
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I saw this early today and thought it would be the hot topic of the day, but haven't seen it posted...so here it is...
So much for brotherly love.
Strikeforce world middleweight champion Frank Shamrock claims that his adoptive brother, UFC hall-of-famer Ken Shamrock, has done steroids "his whole life" and that the performance-enhacing drugs have given him a false sense of security.
When asked if he knew any fighters who were taking steroids, Frank mentioned only Ken.
"My brother Ken did them his whole life," Frank told MMA Madness. "Why do you think that his mind is so fried? Why do you think he crumbles before the big fights? He's got no psyche. He let steroids give him a false sense of security and the moment that stuff is gone he's no longer superman. He's just a regular man. But without all the hard work and without all the belief in himself that a regular man would have if he got up to that point. He's the only guy that I'll tell on, because he's always in trouble anyway.
MMAjunkie contacted one of Ken's representatives about the claims earlier today, and a response is expected to be issued soon.
It's worth noting, though, that Ken has never failed a drug test during an MMA event, and in recent years, the UFC almost always holds events in states in which drug testing is performed (though all fighters aren't always tested). However, fighters such as Dan Severn have long hinted that Ken uses steroids, and there's widespread speculation that Ken used during his days with the WWE.
Still, Frank gave no basis for his claims, nor did he mention any proof or specific instances in which he saw Ken use drugs.
Frank, who defends his Strikeforce title against Cung Le at next week's EliteXC/Strikeforce co-promotion, also spoke about the feud with his brother. The two have been estranged for a number of years, and Frank claims that it began when he decided to train on his own -- without the help of Ken. He said Ken was a "terrible teacher" and that jealousy over his own success caused the rift.
Both fighters have spoken openly about a potential fight, which would be billed as "brother vs. brother," taking place sometime in the next year. EliteXC live events president Gary Shaw said he'd be willing to promote it, but the brothers would likely produce it themselves.
Frank is eyeing an early 2009 fight date and said the bout would probably take place at 205 lbs.
With these latest claims, the fight probably got a whole lot more personal.
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steroids?????? ken shamrock..dont believe it!!!! lmao steroids are yum yum 
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03-20-2008, 11:21 PM
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Since when do we take anything Frank Shamrock says seriously?
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03-20-2008, 11:23 PM
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lol, funny that his own brother said this. I love sibling trash talking!  |
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03-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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Frank's just trying to hype up Shamrock vs. Shamrock! Let's face it, interest in Frank fighting his brother Ken went down the toliet after that fight with R. Berry. By stirring the pot like this Frank hopes to spark interest in a fight thats destined to be garbage!
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03-21-2008, 12:16 AM
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I have to agree with frank on this one steroids can have a nasty effects on you down the road
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03-23-2008, 04:27 AM
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Frank Suprised To The Reaction Of His Claim
Less than a week away from a headlining Strikeforce middleweight championship fight, Frank Shamrock seems a bit surprised by the amount of publicity generated by his recent comments regarding brother Ken Shamrock's alleged steroid use. Frank says he thought he was just stating the obvious.
"I thought it was common knowledge," Frank said. "I thought everybody knew. I've never done it, and I've always kind of stood against it. I just think it's a terrible thing to do to your body and mind, and to teach people to do that."
A master of self-promotion, many have questioned Frank's motives for coming forward with the accusations against his adoptive brother.
"What do I gain from it?" he asked. "Probably nothing. Somebody asked me the truth, and I have a little truth Tourette's -- it just kind of flies out when people ask me."
Some may disagree that Frank stands to gain nothing from the comments, as the publicity from the controversy could conceivably drive interest for an eventual showdown between the feuding brothers. Frank admits that discussions about the fight with Ken have been going on for some time.
"We talked about eight months ago in a business meeting when I was trying to finalize this deal, which was the first conversation I've had with him in seven or eight years," Frank said.
Frank said the feud between the brothers reaches much further back most people realize.
"I don't have a relationship with Ken," Frank said. "I haven't had a serious conversation with that man for my entire life... It's the weirdest thing. It's like I'm closer to my students than I am with Ken."
If (though it appears now to be a case of "when") the fight happens, Frank said he sees the bout as a chance to change the financial landscape of MMA, and introduce a business model more commonly seen in boxing. In short, the fight will be promoted by the Shamrocks rather than an organization.
"I think that's the business model of the future, is having the talent be in the place of the promoter, cut the deals, and do the shows themselves," Frank said. "I think that's how (the fighters) can maximize it... It's a good business model, and I think the promoters have enough money in the sport. I think the companies have plenty of power, and now it's time to shift a little of that to the talent."
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03-23-2008, 04:40 AM
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MMA orgs already promote like that, hence Hughes vs Gracie and St-Pierre vs Serra II
I dont think its just Kens brain thats fried o.0
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03-23-2008, 12:06 PM
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I have to agree with frank on this one steroids can have a nasty effects on you down the road
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nasty effects like what? I've been on and off since 1999 still no problems. I know a lot of people that have been on longer suffering no ill effects.Don't believe everything the mainstream media tells you.
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03-23-2008, 12:25 PM
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nasty effects like what? I've been on and off since 1999 still no problems. I know a lot of people that have been on longer suffering no ill effects.Don't believe everything the mainstream media tells you. |
Steroids are not good for you at all.
Sure there not as bad as a lot of people make them out...but, they can have a LOT of pretty ******* horrible consequences(such as death).
Mostly if they are abused though.
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Frank Shamrock Claims Steroids Fried Ken's Mind
