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post #31 of 39 (permalink) Old 03-23-2008, 08:14 PM
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Had enough replies to say this is worth being debated.
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Had enough replies to say this is worth being debated.
Sorry if I haven't relied to you personally , I don't usually look at names, just reply to last one when I log in.
Notice that EVERY reply disagrees with you/thinks you're a troll...which I also believe is the case.

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Surprised you didn't mention Cro Cop or Kevin Randleman -_-
Hard to call Randleman a "pride fighter" per se when he fought in the UFC seven times including holding and defending the UFC HW belt before going to pride. And I don't think anyone has rated him very highly for a while now...

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Well they both came from Pride but the TS is arguing that Nog's performance vs Herring was weak, which iMO is wrong.
i agree with you.....but i will say that heath herring has not looked good at all to me in the ufc, and when he fought big nog i thought that big nog would submit herring or knock him out but other than that i thought he won the fight 4 sure...
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Yes point taken(and this is a debate).
But Nog very poor HW champion,
Rampage as i said before one fight got him a title shot and one defence in 6 months.....Thought champions were meant to take on all comers..
Silva no debate he is class....
But what about all the othe Pride 'greats'

Come on Shogun got beaten by Forrest' my best win was bonnar but the people love me' Griffen. And he is the great Rampage's next oppenent...
Okay, Shogun was not at 100% when he fought Forrest. Nog got hit with one shitty kick from Herring but after that he dominated his ass. Not only that he submitted Tim Sylvia. Rampage is doing the Ultimate Fighter 7 and you know how that show holds up the weight divisions. Seriously, Serra vs. Hughes should have happened by now. Also,Wanderlei lost a close fight to Chuck.

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I consider Rampage a WEC guy personally, and Anderson Silva a Cage Rage guy.

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I consider Rampage a WEC guy personally, and Anderson Silva a Cage Rage guy.

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Well Andy has fought in Pride and UFC each more times than Cage Rage and actually fought in Pride before he fought in Cage Rage. I'd have to say his roots are in Vale Tudo and then Pride primarily.

'Page has never fought in WEC- although he did fight in the WFA once, but he didn't fight there until after his lengthy Pride career. If anything he's really a KOTC guy since that's where he got his first matchup against a real fighter (Marvin Eastman) early in his career.

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We could put it this way folks:

Some of the PRIDE greats has had a hard time adapting to the UFC. Maybe, psychologically they felt more embraced and hyped up in pride or whatever. Perhaps they NEED a couple of fight before they are UFC adapted.

But some other PRIDE greats, whose skills translated better to the octagon, came, saw & conquered! Nogueira Shooled Herring all of the figth EXEPT the minutes around the headkick. Herring couldn't finish him, accept that and STOP COMPLAINING!. Then he submitted a very game Tim Sylvie (While Xouture couldnt finish a non - game injured Sylvia. He's still great though don't get me wrong).

Rampage killed off Liddell's winning streak and career. Even if Hendo is a Pride guy he was very on against Rampage and IMO he was a bad matchup for him since his wrestling was much more technically sound than Rampage's. (And wrestling, like BJJ is ore about technique and balance/leverage than strength).

Anderson Silva had lost some fights in pride, ruled in CR a little and then came and ruled the UFC MW division for a while.

A good observation is that all of these guys had lost some dissapointing fights/couldn't beat a certain fighter in PRIDE. They actually had MORE success in the UFC than in PRIDE!

Also, look for Nog o win his next few title defenses so y'all can see what a "poor" champion he is.

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