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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-13-2008, 11:08 AM
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Nate isnt that great but people like him because he is super tough, fights hard, can submit people at anytime, and most importantly he is winning right now. It isnt really about how you win just that you win and as long as he keeps doing that people will continue to praise him. I personally do not feel that he can beat someone like Kenflo, Huerta, Tyson Griffin, or Tavarres but who knows, We will see when he gets those fights.
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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-13-2008, 11:08 AM
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you know what we can say what we want about nate

but the kid is one tough SOB

im definately looking to see him in the octagon again......but where im a lil confused is the area where you think that ppl are referring to him as the "second coming"

which makes my wonder......the second coming of what?

The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
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Originally Posted by UseOf_A_Weapon View Post
but he beat KURT!!! wtf man! Kurt has pretty phenomenal ground game! have you seen the video from the 2006 or 2007 ADCC? Kurt was tooling people! and to have nate diaz, a kid who clearly isn't as physically strong as kurt come in and beat him with a triangle of all things?!?

now, you also gotta give him some time to mature a bit. I say Pelligrino was his first big win and he needs more competition to keep his skill level on point. No, he wouldn't beat Penn and I think sherk would lay n pray him to death...but you gotta give the kid some credit man, he's pretty d*** good.
I would love to see him fight Sherk. His long limbs would give Sherk fits. And we know his BJJ is awesome. If you can sneak a triangle on Batman you can get one on Sherk. We know Diaz can take punishment too.

Now don't get all carried away (Sherk fans) because I did not say he would beat him. Just that I think he could (hell, I think anyone could beat anyone).

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Huerta or Guida would destroy Nate, it would be ugly. Nick is a skilled fighter, a "great" fighter wouldn't keep getting his ass busted for drug use when he's got professional fights on the schedule. Nate is skilled to, but he hasn't fought a top 25 fighter yet, whereas Huerta and Guida ARE top 10-15 fighters.
Guida destroy? LOL guidas biggest problem is finishing people i dont see him finishing nate either ...
huerta? huerta have not fought a one decent fighter except guida he is fighting cans...
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Originally Posted by JIKI View Post
Guida destroy? LOL guidas biggest problem is finishing people i dont see him finishing nate either ...
huerta? huerta have not fought a one decent fighter except guida he is fighting cans...
Guida just KO'd Samy Schiavo who is a good striker and a pretty good fighter. Some of the fights he didn't "finish" were against the best in the division. Huerta's last 4 fights were all against fighters that could beat Diaz. I think anyone in the LW top 10 would kill Diaz right now.
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huerta was fighting caNZ ... Guida could have finished huerta and even tyson ...
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I would have to agree with you cplmac, right now he is not ready for anyone like Guida or Huerta, not to say he would be completely helpless though
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Originally Posted by southpaw447 View Post
Actually thought he was done when Kurt had his arms trapped in the crucifix wailing on his face.

I don't really see too much greatness in Nate.

Soon he's going to face someone who is going to get in his face and make him work.

I can see Tyson Griffin being his next challenger and beating him pretty easily.

I'm not sure about Nate's gas tank but him and his brother are tri-athletes so they gotta be in shape right?
Tyson is fighting Aurelio in August so Nate will probably fight again around then so they can setup a match
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Nate suffers from the same thing that his brother does in the fact that he leaves himself open way to much for punishment. Eventually hes gonna be facing guys whose gas tanks are made for 5 round fights, with great sub defense and theyll put the pressure on him and never let up.

Not saying I dont love to see the kid fight though. Its nice to have a Nick clone in the UFC while he gets his shit together.
Great point Wise. Was gonna rep you but said I had to spread more. I was gonna say pretty much the same thing. Nate needs to impress me with his stand up a little more. LIke you said he takes way too much punishment IMO. We all know his ground game is ridiculous. We'll see.

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I think Nate could take Florian...
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