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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2008, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
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Who has the worst stand up in MMA?

Royce Gracie
Matt Hughes
Andy Wang
Shinya Aoki
Eric Schaefer
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2008, 03:48 PM
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Hughes and Aoki don't belong on there at all. Rani Yahya should be #1. And a ton of other Judo and BJJ guys who don't train for MMA have the wost stand up. Hughes can't beat top WW's standing but his stand up isn't horrible same with Aoki.
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If you are a ranked fighter, there should be absolutely 0% chance that you can be called one of the worst standup fighters in MMA. It's not possible. They may not strike efficiently, but they avoid serious damage, and you can't have bad standup and avoid damage often at the same time.

Now if your question, which ranked fighters have the worst standup, then perhaps Hughes and Aoki could be on there. Maybe.


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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2008, 05:09 PM
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Royce Gracie is on this list?

Have you ever seen him dropped by a punch or kick? Has he ever been hurt or stunned by a strike?

He used punches and kicks to set his opponent up for a takedown or clinch where he would position into a BJJ exchange.

Royce didn't show or employ the techniques that today's top fighters do because is it wasn't necessary then. Gracie used striking as effectively as it could possibly be employed to put the fight exactly where he wanted it.

To his credit, I don't believe he's ever been cut, bruised, or even remotely affected by strikes - except for during a fight he lost to Sakuraba. He took some damage there.
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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-16-2008, 11:38 PM
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-17-2008, 03:14 AM
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Probably not the worst.but i got to say Dean Lister..

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Before the Bisbeng fight Hamill I thought had the worst stand up ever in MMA but he showed a hell of alot of improvement in that fight.

Rampage Jackson
Frank Shamrock
Bas Rutten
Nate Diaz
Nick Diaz
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-17-2008, 08:29 AM
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Sean O'Haire and the wrestler with the mask who fought crocop. This sumo wrestler who got defeated by cesear.


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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 09:00 PM
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Ralek Gracie has some pretty horrid standup.
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