Originally Posted by A1yola06

Ya thats right, suck my damn dick. Forrest Griffin is a good fighter but he is lucky to be champ. Ninja was injured, and he got a lucky decision against rampage. If rampage gets a rematch he will murder him and everyone will see what should have happened the first time. If not that WAND will murder his ass... that is if Evans doesn't wrestle himself to a victory before hand.

Originally Posted by TERMINATOR

I agree its funny Griffin gets the same amount of shit as lesnar does for being champ.

Originally Posted by ShadyNismo

Luckiest would have to be Matt Serra. lol

Originally Posted by jbritt

Forrest is a totally different fighter now than he was when he fought Jardine. Forrest was still a brawler back then and he got caught by those ****** up punches Jardine throws.

Originally Posted by southpaw447

Forrest Dominated the later rounds of the fight and wore Page down. He won fair and square.

However I think Rashad is going to beat him. I also think Wanderlei is going to destroy Page... Again and this time it will be even worse than #2

Originally Posted by Davisty69

Haha, it seems to me that you practically defined a lucky punch.

If I were to get a chance to fight say Chuck Liddell. I know that he would murder me. Therefore, my gameplan is to come out swinging, hoping to catch him with a perfect punch to drop him. By chance, I do it. According to your definition, that would not be a lucky punch, just... me being on, while chuck is having an off day????

I call a win lucky when the fighter that won is completely outmatched.

Let's put it this way. If Serra and GSP were to fight 10 times, how many do you think Serra would win? For me, it has to be 1 out of 10 (and the only reason I give him 1 is because he friggin did it). The odds aren't with him, therefore he was lucky.


Basically, he didn't beat GSP because he is a superior fighter, he beat him by chance that a hard shot, would land at the right time.

Now, this doesn't apply to guys that are KO artists like Chucky because they train their striking through and through and have shown, through positive outcomes, that them getting a KO is not simply luck or chance. It is likely based upon their skills.

You can define it how you like, but when an inferior fighter beats a superior fighter with KO early on, it is luck in my book. They didn't dominate their opponent, they hit him with a great shot through luck/chance.

Originally Posted by plazzman

Not really. He brawled with Rampage too. I think the "Fighter A isn't the fighter he was when he lost to Fighter B" statement is extremely played out.

People get caught and lose, everyone does, why can't people live with that?

Originally Posted by Alex_DeLarge

I'm curious what makes you believe Rampage would "murder" Forrest in a rematch?

I mean, logic would say, that if the fight was incredibly close, and Forrest did come out with a decision, then there wouldn't be much "murdering" going on.

Originally Posted by Terror Kovenant

There is just absolutely no way that Griffin vs Jackson could have been won for Rampage. Griffin clearly won 3/5 and Rampage clearly won 2/5. Griffin wanted the win more, he worked harder, he pressed more action, and he was more aggressive. Griffin won, its not even debateable, some people are just stupid.