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post #21 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-21-2009, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vaj3000 View Post
I tell u what i am sick of....... another fedor bashing thread...how gay

......and brock 'the saviour of anti fedor ufc fans' lesnar couldnt even finish herring.....whats your ******* point????

All of a sudden now that lesnar is in the ufc...ufc nuthuggers who aint even real mma fans seem to have grown balls. We'll see what happens when lesnar gets exposed
Um, my point is he hasn't face a grappler larger than him. That's pretty much a fact.

BTW, this is in the smack talk section. If you can't take someone being critical of Fedor maybe you shouldn't be in this thread. At least try not to take it so seriously. You haven't been around here for to long I see, there really aren't to many Fedor bashing threads on this forum. Certainly not enough of them to be sick of them.


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post #22 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-22-2009, 01:47 PM
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It's funny how people who are relatively new to MMA think they know a lot about the sport already. You can ask ANY UFC HW fighter and ask who's the best in their weight division. About fighters who came from Pride who loses coming into the UFC, Anderson Silva is from Pride, he is the best P4P fighter in the world. Why don't you ask Dana to co-promote just once and have Brock face Fedor.
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Originally Posted by tykilroy View Post
Have you noticed a trend from Pride fighters coming into the UFC?

They Lose !

The better fighters are in the UFC, period
Because their primes were all five years ago. Mirko CroCop was a god back in the golden age of Pride FC. He lost a couple of steps. That's the only reason why he loses in the UFC.
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post #26 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-22-2009, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DropKick View Post
Fedor isn't scared of anyone in the UFC. To be fair though he has never faced a grappler that is bigger than he is and he would if he was fighting in the UFC.

Fighters that Fedor has faced that had a significant size advantage:

Hong Man Choi
Mark Hunt
Tim Sylvia
Semmy Schilt
Heath Herring

None of these has a ground game.

Good grapplers that Fedor has fought:

Big Nog (Fedor's best win IMO. Nog was the best HW in the world before he fought Fedor)
Ricardo Arona
Matt Lindland
Kevin Randleman
Mark Coleman

All of these guys have been about the same size or smaller. Arona, Randleman and Babalu are really LHW's and Lindland is a MW. Mark Coleman is now fighting at LHW. So that leaves Nog who is around the same size as Fedor and Fedor couldn't finish him. Just sayin.

There are a couple HW's in the UFC that could give Fedor problems as he really hasn't had to deal with someone that is bigger than him AND can grapple.

I know guys like to really emphasize size advantages, but honestly, at this level it doesn't mean a hell of a lot. Even at the amateur level it isn't that big of a deal, at least not in my experiences.

You can go ahead and poke holes in every fighter that Fedor has faced. HMC didn't have a ground game. Fedor fought Nog and only dominated the entire fight without "finishing" him. Randleman - who is easily as strong as a heavyweight - is really small. Whatever.

It's easy to poke holes in fights. I could mention that the UFC's heavyweight division is thinner than the Diaz brothers and the wins that Couture has gotten are nothing but a result of that - the man couldn't even finish Tito Ortiz, after all - but what does that prove?

The fact is, Fedor has won A LOT of fights and he has proven himself many, many times over. The range and depth of the types of fighters he has fought and beaten is unheard of. You can say that UFC fighters could give him issues because some of them are bigger if you like, I don't think that, but since it's not really knowable, maybe it's a better idea to observe what has happened as opposed to what one can imagine happening.

Also, Big Nog is not "about the same size" as Fedor. Big Nog is 6'3" and Fedor is barely 6'0".
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