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**xeberus** · 07-13-2010, 01:40 PM

In a ufc fight, gracie would eventually submit bruce lee.

**Toxic** · 07-13-2010, 02:07 PM

Gracie ten times out of ten. Bruce Lee would have gotten destroyed quickly. People forget Ken Shamrock was a much bigger guy than Royce and had a far better understanding of submission grappling than Lee would. The myth of Bruce Lee and his one inch punch is laughable. Half the myths about Lee around here are so ludicrous they sound like they are stolen straight from the Chuck Norris fact website.

**vilify** · 07-13-2010, 02:53 PM

Bruce Lee was an actor I dont care how serious he took martial arts, he was still an actor.

He would get his butt kicked by most proffesional fighters and probably all modern day MMA fighters.

**The Horticulturist** · 07-13-2010, 09:34 PM

Bruce would hit him a couple times, get confident, try a spinning back kick, get his back taken, squirm up to his feet, get his ankles nipped by Royce, and then the Gracie grip wears down the little guy for the gi choke from mount.

Bruce might have been a really, really explosive movie star/martial artist, but the Gracie grip will wear anyone down if they haven't trained for it. It's science!

coldcall420 · 07-14-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SJ

Bruce would hit him a couple times, get confident, try a spinning back kick, get his back taken, squirm up to his feet, get his ankles nipped by Royce, and then the Gracie grip wears down the little guy for the gi choke from mount.

Bruce might have been a really, really explosive movie star/martial artist, but the Gracie grip will wear anyone down if they haven't trained for it. It's science!

Are you from Brazil??? Seriously, Lee would never be touched by Royce, also Bruce developed and Mastered Jeet Kune Do on his own, I would bet anything Royce is never even able to connect in anyway to get a grasp of Lee, he def did movies but you should spend some time doing a lil research on Lee and all the training he did, the advancements he made to karate and try to find old movies of him developing these techniques, diets, he studied nutrition they are amazing to watch and I can assure you Bruce would not get touched by Royce...sorry bro....it isnt happening....there is no comparison in speed, none what so ever

EDIT @ Villy.....again you prove how little you truly know.....Wow, lol an actor, his skill got him an acting career, um let me relate it but on a lower level for you....Cung Le, karate fighter turned actor.....no where near Bruce but dam son, either you post that stuff cuz you just dont know or like to post crap....I think its the latter....

@ Toxic, you assume Gracie would even be able to touch Lee this wouldnt happen, what ever body part Gracie even tries to reach with would be caught by a blow from Lee, never allowing the distance to be closed, Shamrock was not Karate fighter using the style that Lee had, so that comparison is off. Lee wouldnt look to sub Gracie, you have it backwards, Lee would hit Gracie without Gracie realizing he had been hit.....its the speed, the speed is what kills....you cant be touched you cant be subbed...

**vilify** · 07-14-2010, 11:25 AM

CC I didnt mean to hurt your feelings by insulting your child hood hero. This Bruce Lee crap comes up quite often when discussing MMA or combat sports with old school movie fans or casual MMA fans. However, Most modern day fight fans understand Bruce Lee was mostly a self taught martial artist, whith no real verifiable fight record. He competed in some exhibition matches and was a legendary street fighter (we all know how awesome street fighters are

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TBH i'm a bit suprised a genius like yourself doesnt know better than to think Bruce was anything more than a philosopher. I'm also surprised you would compare Cung Lee, a man with an actual fighting record to Bruce Lee a man who was not even a professional fighter. I will say that philosophically he was ahead of his time but you still CANT compare him to actual fighters like Gracie, Ali or any modern day FIGHTER. Its like saying Mr Miyagi would beat Lesnar

Ivan · 07-14-2010, 11:51 AM

Hmm.. be water my friend VS the man who turned into water many times like in that long match he had.. ahh what the hell .. Bruce should win..RIP.. God Bless the Dead..

coldcall420 · 07-14-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vilify

CC I didnt mean to hurt your feelings by insulting your child hood hero. This Bruce Lee crap comes up quite often when discussing MMA or combat sports with old school movie fans or casual MMA fans. However, Most modern day fight fans understand Bruce Lee was mostly a self taught martial artist, whith no real verifiable fight record. He competed in some exhibition matches and was a legendary street fighter (we all know how awesome street fighters are

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TBH i'm a bit suprised a genius like yourself doesnt know better than to think Bruce was anything more than a philosopher. I'm also surprised you would compare Cung Lee, a man with an actual fighting record to Bruce Lee a man who was not even a professional fighter. I will say that philosophically he was ahead of his time but you still CANT compare him to actual fighters like Gracie, Ali or any modern day FIGHTER. Its like saying Mr Miyagi would beat Lesnar

The bold is a perfect example of you not getting it, I understand as this happens to you VERY often on here. Its an example, I am not comparing Bruce Lee to Cung Le, rather that both have Karate skills that led to acting......

As far as my feeling's go, you dont posses the ability to hurt them, you do a very good job of drawing false conclusions though. Bruce Lee was not a street fighter dude, he taught a self developed form of Martial Arts called Jeet Kune Do....."The way of the Intercepting Fist" a style that uses the longest extremidy of your body to counter any blow or attack strike from an opponent....the entire premise of this style is not being touched.....Royce would not be able to touch him, plus Bruce Lee is the faster of the 2 in their primes.

Philosopher....Im not even going to touch that, just point out that you are way off.....he was much more:

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While Lee initially trained in Wing Chun, he later rejected well-defined martial art styles, favoring instead to utilize useful techniques from various sources in the spirit of his personal martial arts philosophy he dubbed Jeet Kune Do (The Way of the Intercepting Fist).

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Lee began teaching martial arts in the United States in 1959

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He took the view that traditional martial arts techniques were too rigid and formalistic to be practical in scenarios of chaotic street fighting. Lee decided to develop a system with an emphasis on "practicality, flexibility, speed, and efficiency". He started to use different methods of training such as weight training for strength, running for endurance, stretching for flexibility, and many others which he constantly adapted.

He also fought competatively, and as far as his style being for street fights that is inaccurate as well:

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Jeet Kune Do originated in 1965. A controversial match with Wong Jack Man heavily influenced Lee's philosophy about martial arts. Lee concluded that the fight had lasted too long and that he had failed to live up to his potential using his Wing Chun techniques. He took the view that traditional martial arts techniques were too rigid and formalistic to be practical in scenarios of chaotic street fighting. Lee decided to develop a system with an emphasis on "practicality, flexibility, speed, and efficiency". He started to use different methods of training such as weight training for strength, running for endurance, stretching for flexibility, and many others which he constantly adapted.
Lee emphasized what he called "the style of no style". This consisted of getting rid of the formalized approach which Lee claimed was indicative of traditional styles. Lee felt the system he now called Jun Fan Gung Fu was even too restrictive, and eventually evolved into a philosophy and martial art he would come to call Jeet Kune Do or the Way of the Intercepting Fist. It is a term he would later regret because Jeet Kune Do implied specific parameters that styles connote whereas the idea of his martial art was to exist outside of parameters and limitations.

FTR....I have an I.Q. of 147...its been tested so thank you for reognizing that I am a genius

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punchbag · 07-14-2010, 02:04 PM

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Bruce lee himself even said that fighting in competition didn't fit JKD. Since it and Kung-fu contain throat strikes, groan shots, and other quick ways to incapacitate their opponents. In a no holds bard fight Lee beats him. In current UFC rules, I think I go with Gracie.

Don't forget jujitsu is toned down for competition too, so no small joint manipulation, eye, nose, mouth, spinal or groin strikes are used either.
I think Bruce Lee was amazing to watch in films, but Royce wins everytime in a real fight in my opinion even if his striking is shocking.

coldcall420 · 07-14-2010, 02:18 PM

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Don't forget jujitsu is toned down for competition too, so no small joint manipulation, eye, nose, mouth, spinal or groin strikes are used either.
I think Bruce Lee was amazing to watch in films, but Royce wins everytime in a real fight in my opinion even if his striking is shocking.

Have you seen him fight competitively??? Look for old films of him competing and u may change your mind, just sayin....

Again Royce would need to be able to touch Lee, not being touched is the basis for his fighting style....