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post #11 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-25-2007, 08:17 PM
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I'm going with all around importance, as well as being looked at as "The guy in the UFC".

Royce Gracie-I'm not a huge Royce fan, but his importance is most definitely there. The guy brought BJJ to the masses(Atleast in the states). He was, at one point, seen as "Unbeatable". He beat Dan Severn, Ken Shamrock, & Kimo. Not a bad list at all, especially when they were at their best during that time period.

Matt Hughes-He was the working man's champion. He still is one of the greatest fighters this sport has ever seen, and a true fighter. He never EVER backed down from a challenge, and put on some of the greatest fights in the UFC.

Frank Shamrock-Ok, so this is personal bias here. I can defend this though. Frank was seen as the first true legit champion, and was probably the greatest fighter in his prime. Tito vs Frank is my favorite fight ever, and Frank was the catalyst for the Tito Ortiz's, the Matt Hughes, & the Chuck Liddell's. Frank, nowadays, is embarrassing, but he was the man back then.

I'd love to include Bas, but his UFC run was just not that good. He KO'd TK with an illegal knee(Well, he would've KO'd TK anyway, but still...), and won a *very* controversial decision against Kevin Randleman. Really, his UFC run was odd.

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Royce Gracie
Chuck Liddell
Randy Couture
Matt Hughes
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all the aforementioned guys are good choices...surprised no one has said Mark Coleman...the guy revolutionized the game with GnP...he should be included in anyone's all-time list...

same can be said about Maurice Smith and what he did as the first pure striker/kickboxer to succeed in the UFC...

another would be Pat Miletich since he has become one of the best trainers in the game although the man could hang in the ring as well...
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Reading that made me yearn for the long awaited return of Greg Stott.

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Redeem yourself Frank, it's not too late! Seriously. Become a bhuddist, get rid of all your worldly posessions, and forget about money. Go into the jungles of cambodia and don't emerge for two years. When you do, shave your beard, assemble Rickson, Ernesto Hoost, and Chuck Norris, then re-enter the jungles of cambodia. Come out the jungle in another two years, all four of you collectively shave your beards, and simultaniously Rickson, Ernesto, and Chuck all say: "The student has become the teacher." THEN(takes a breath) enter into Prides openweight grand prix, beat Fedor...twice, sub Wandy, and just to please the Japs, win a convincing descision against Sakaraba. After that, go over to the UFC and take it easy for a while. Pity fight against Tito, Legend fight against Crocop(by then he will be), and a revenge fight against Ron Tripp(Rickson's only loss). After that, fight Ken for some reason, and for the cu-de-gras you versus your sensei Rickson.... IN HELL. Special guest referee: SATAN. Then after beating Rickson in the longest recorded mma fight(three days) YOu do a flying heelhook on Lucifer, then curbstomp him into a stalagmite. You escape HELL with Rickson unconsious over your shoulder, and you both live out your days banging Brazilizn b!tches and sipping Rum and Coke. To bad no one will ever read this because theyre all too busy discussing how much donkey d!ck Heith Herring sucked on last night. And I'm done.
LMAO I agree!

Here's my top 5 for the same reasons that have already been mentioned by others.

1.) Royce
2.) Liddell
3.) Couture
4.) Shamrocks
5.) Coleman
6.) Hughes
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Here goes, but there is no particular order.

1) Randy Couture- Two world titles at different weight categories says it all. Very humble man and a great competitor, one of the most admirable sports personalities in my lifetime. Plus he's hard as nails!

2) Ken Shamrock- A true warrior, never could say die and deserves a lot of respect. Despite being a bit of an asshole.

3) Tito Ortiz- A dominant fighter in his own right. I know a lot of people diss him. But you cannot doubt his heart and determination. Has fallen short at most tests such as Couture and Liddell. However is still young at 31 and fights to the best of his ability whenever he can. A quality fighter would not hold wins over Belfort and Wandy if that were not the case. Controversy created this guys career, a true ego and yet humble in defeat.

4) Matt Hughes- Most dominant welterweight of all time. Not much of a personality but who needs personality when you are one of the toughest men on the planet? With wins over St.Pierre, Trigg, Newton etc Has provided some of the most entertaining fights I have seen in the UFC.

5) Ian Freeman- An odd choice, but I had too include someone that was not American and being English this dude rocks. Not the most talented of fighters, however holds a sweet knockout victory over Frank Mir, when Mir was at the top of his game.

Maybe not the greatest UFC fighters of all time. But the most memorable in my estimations. I know Royce Gracie was a hell of a performer along with another dozen or so names I could mention. However I never found his fights that entertaining. Not denying his sheer ability, just dont see what all the fuss is about.
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1. Joe Son - Took 17 (could be 5) shots to the nuts and still fought on. This guy is TOUGH.

2. Emmanuel Yarborough - 600 POUNDS!!!

3. Kimo Leopoldo - Took Royce to the cleaners...and got submitted. D'oh!

But seriously:

1. Mark Coleman - the inventor of GnP
2. Vitor Belfort - the "old Vitor" (This is getting old now).
3. Ken Shamrock / Tank Abbott / Don Frye / Bas Rutten / Josh Barnett / Ricco Rodriguez / Mark Kerr / Dan Severn - various reason, but most of all, they got me hooked on MMA.
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1. Royce Gracie- "Built this house"
2. Chuck Liddell- Just a tremendous fighter with great heart.
3. Bas Rutten- A true original of MMA and legend in his own right.

Tell me what I cannot do... and I will prove you wrong."- Royce Gracie
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randy: an ambassador and a legend all in one. two different titles. fought at a very high level when most fighters have been retired for 5 years.
chuck liddell: dominant champion with the great ability to finish fights. helped to move mma and the ufc into the mainstream.
royce gracie: started it all. beat the greats and beat bigger opponents.

thats my 3.

close on the list: matt hughes...a very dominant champ.
a dark horse: tank abbott: lots of average fans know this guy.
looking into the future: GSP. if he keeps it up, he'll definitely earn consideration. but right now its way too early to tell.

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