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Old 11-08-2010, 05:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There's also the butts in seats factor. Some guys are a draw and tend to be worth more in Dana's eyes because of it, separate and apart from their actual fighting skill.
Talent x Charisma would be the currency of the UFC.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Allow me to respond to the thread starter: UFC salaries are criticized heavily, but undeservedly so.
Yes there are some fighters who make $10,000 a fight but let's examine that figure a bit closer, shall we?

1. Only the absolute worst/newest fighters in the UFC get paid that amount. In other words, the majority of fighters get paid more than that and the best ones actually get paid A LOT of money.

2. For most people getting paid $10,000 a fight, they are still fighting on their starting contracts. This means that the UFC wants to see if you are the real deal and if you indeed are a good fighter then when your contract comes to a close, they will extend it and pay you well. Chael Sonnen is a good example of a guy still fighting on his starting contract, but once his contract is up you better believe he will be paid a lot of money.

3. The $10,000 figure you are pointing out doesnt include the fighter's total salary. Fighters make the bulk of their money through sponsors and endorsements. Also, various TV show appearences, interviews here and there, photo shoots, etc. add more and more money to your overall bankroll through time.

4. The UFC is a private owned corporation, meaning that they do not release full salary information to the public. In other words, if you put on a good fight Dana White has said that he gives fighters post-fight bonuses under the table on a regular basis. So, yes you might get $10,000 for the fight but if DW likes you he will throw an extra $30,000 your way behind closed doors.

5. As a fighter you are rewarded for performing well. This is why the UFC gives out bonuses for Fight of the Night, KO of the Night, and Sub of the Night. So even if you get paid $10,000 for a fight, you could end up with $70,000 if you get the KO bonus for instance.

At the end of the day, even if you are one of the worst fighters in the UFC and are still stuck on your rookie contract, you will make:

Fight salary $10,000
Under the table bonus $20,000
Sponsors/Endorsements $30,000
FOTN Bonus $60,000
Interviews/Misc income $10,000

This comes out to a total of $130,000 per fight. Which means that if you have four fights in a year thats still $520,000 per year which is an absurd amount of money and well above what most American households make.
Naturally, you're probably not going to win a fight bonus every time you fight and the above figures aren't without error, but the point is that UFC fighters get compensated well compared to average people and if you are a good fighter then you will CERTAINLY be paid very well.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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[...] the point is that UFC fighters get compensated well compared to average people and if you are a good fighter then you will CERTAINLY be paid very well.
But do average people have the same risk of getting severely injured while doing their jobs¿ From my point of view I'd say that going pro as an MMA fighter is only worth if the probability is very high to quickly get into the elite ranks which in general is quite hard to tell at the beginning of the career.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Talent x Charisma would be the currency of the UFC.
Pretty much.
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I don't get the hate about this at all. If your a $8000 a fight guy then your not filling the arena. outside immediate family or friends nobody is showing up to watch you fight. There are tens of thousands of people who would jump at the opportunity. The UFC is not making money off of a $8000 fighter they are dispensable so $8000 for a time killer in front of a half empty arena is pretty damn good IMO.
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At the end of the day, even if you are one of the worst fighters in the UFC and are still stuck on your rookie contract, you will make:

Fight salary $10,000
Under the table bonus $20,000
Sponsors/Endorsements $30,000
FOTN Bonus $60,000
Interviews/Misc income $10,000

This comes out to a total of $130,000 per fight. Which means that if you have four fights in a year thats still $520,000 per year which is an absurd amount of money and well above what most American households make.
if you're one of the worst fighters you're not getting FOTN bonus, or under the table bonuses or $30k for endorsements.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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if you're one of the worst fighters you're not getting FOTN bonus, or under the table bonuses or $30k for endorsements.
All the more incentive to improve so you can go out and earn it.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, even if you are one of the worst fighters in the UFC and are still stuck on your rookie contract, you will make:

Fight salary $10,000
Under the table bonus $20,000
Sponsors/Endorsements $30,000
FOTN Bonus $60,000
Interviews/Misc income $10,000

This comes out to a total of $130,000 per fight. Which means that if you have four fights in a year thats still $520,000 per year which is an absurd amount of money and well above what most American households make.
Naturally, you're probably not going to win a fight bonus every time you fight and the above figures aren't without error, but the point is that UFC fighters get compensated well compared to average people and if you are a good fighter then you will CERTAINLY be paid very well.
I didn't know Dana handed out Fight of the Night to all 11 fights on the card.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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According to: http://mmajunkie.com/news/21149/ufc-...on-payroll.mma

People in the UFC are still reciving very low payments such as: $8,000 - $10,000.

Why are the fighters accepting this low payroll? Are fighters afraid to fight for their own income and family? Is Dana White too much for UFC fighters too handle? Was Fedor right when he said UFC don't threat fighters as people?

What signals is this sending to the younger generation of top atletes intressted in MMA, that they should do fotball instead? Is the low payment to the fighters good for MMA as a whole?
Go ask the fighters making 8-10gs a fight if they would prefer working at McDonalds for minimum wage.


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I don't get the hate about this at all. If your a $8000 a fight guy then your not filling the arena. outside immediate family or friends nobody is showing up to watch you fight. There are tens of thousands of people who would jump at the opportunity. The UFC is not making money off of a $8000 fighter they are dispensable so $8000 for a time killer in front of a half empty arena is pretty damn good IMO.
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Well, a lot of UFC marquee fighters back in the day ditched the UFC for Japan because the pay was so bad.

BJ Penn for example, was offered four times the pay to fight in Japan. Penn was willing to take a lot less to continue fighting for the UFC, but Dana gave him the finger and told him to never come back.

Four years later the contract Penn got for being the "greatest LW champion in the world" still pays less than what he got in K-1. Nothing new here... Part of "going to the UFC to fight the best" includes "take a pay cut."
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