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Old 12-16-2010, 02:09 PM   #81 (permalink)
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A) you're obviously very ignorant if you think hunting takes no skill even with a rifle. If you haven't actually done it yourself then how do you know it takes no skill?

What a bunch of liberal p****** in this thread....im discusted at how pussified society has become...
LOL! This type of post is what gives hunters that inbred moronic stereotype? I'm "pussified" because of my feelings on hunting? Because I don't see the point in killing an animal for no real reason other than sport, I'm not a real man? I grew up with manly homophobic, animal killing idiots like you.

And for your information, I've been hunting, and I found it to be rather barbaric and boring. And for whoever else was talking about slaughterhouses, yes I'm aware of the type of things that happen there, and don't agree with it. That's why I try to eat farm raised, and free range meats... but that's beside the point. Killing for food is one thing. Killing for sport is sick.

I love how people say "liberal pussies" liberal this, liberal that. There's a ton of statistical data to say that there is a positive trend with being "liberal", and having a higher degree of intelligence, and better education. But, I guess that makes me a *****.

Let's get in our trucks and go kill something. Yee haw.

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I keep seeing these arguments repeated over and over again but i've seen barley any posts disagreeing with this?

People are fine with hunting for food. What people are not comfortable with is hunting for fun or pleasure, NOT FOR FOOD. That is what i have a problem with.

I'm an animal lover and killing or hunting animals just for fun makes me angry. If you're hunting for food, thats perfectly fine and normal, thats not what people have an issue with as ape city has pointed out numerous times.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:35 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Indeed.

Now, trying to re-hijack this thread...

It's also funny that we are so ignorant that we think nature actually needs us to take care of overpopulation and the climate. We say we do it for nature, but in reality we do it for ourselves. Environmentalists don't care for the environment, they care for their natural habitat and ONLY that.
It is population control that limits disease, return of natural predators such as cougars to populated areas, it reduces the amount of car accidents involving deer, preserves crops, etc. Yeah we do it for us. If we didn't thin the herds they would move into populated areas and farm lands in large numbers. Pretty soon they'd have the corner on the market of low wage jobs, stand around in front of Home Depot, free ranging on our public schools and health care systems...

I see what I just did there....
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What if I complain about hunting endangered animals? :P MMM...Siberian tigers are delicious!
Then you're not complaining about hunting for food. You're complaining about hunting X for food.
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I don't have a great deal of respect for hunters that kill their prey from so far away. All it requires is patience and being good at a shooting range. At least he eats the meat, as trophy hunting is just absurd.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:10 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I keep seeing these arguments repeated over and over again but i've seen barley any posts disagreeing with this?

People are fine with hunting for food. What people are not comfortable with is hunting for fun or pleasure, NOT FOR FOOD. That is what i have a problem with.

I'm an animal lover and killing or hunting animals just for fun makes me angry. If you're hunting for food, thats perfectly fine and normal, thats not what people have an issue with as ape city has pointed out numerous times.
In the end the people huting for "food" are still doing it somewhat for "pleasure". If you know hunting, then you know hunting isn't exactly an economic way of providing food. Most all people hunt and eat the meat, venison is great. But at the same time they may mount the head if it is trophy caliber. So usually it is for both.

So are you against fishing? Fishing for trophy bass or whatnot? The ones where you mount on your wall?

Its not like people are just out there running around killing and animals they come by. They need a license, they need a tag. Any given day it is a GREAT day if you actually get something. Its not just a bunch random shots at a bunch of animals.
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I don't have a great deal of respect for hunters that kill their prey from so far away. All it requires is patience and being good at a shooting range. At least he eats the meat, as trophy hunting is just absurd.
I don't respect commercial fishermen who use huge nets to catch the fish that is put in resturraunts and supermarkets. It is easy. They catch other unwanted creatures as they get tangled in the net. They should have to use a hook and worm for each fish.

Funny how people support commercial fishing, when in fact it kills waaaaaaaaay more animals that aren't even used for food then any sort of hunting. Actually cows and whatnot too. They raise the animals on a farm with no life of their own. They send them to the mass butcher...and they get rid of the defected ones. But hey hypocrisy is a bitch.

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It is population control that limits disease, return of natural predators such as cougars to populated areas, it reduces the amount of car accidents involving deer, preserves crops, etc. Yeah we do it for us. If we didn't thin the herds they would move into populated areas and farm lands in large numbers. Pretty soon they'd have the corner on the market of low wage jobs, stand around in front of Home Depot, free ranging on our public schools and health care systems...

I see what I just did there....
As long as we can all agree that everything we do is because of self-preservation I'm happy. I never said it was a bad thing either... hell, I wouldn't want some deer roaming around my backyard eating all my vegetables and stealing my car.
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I don't respect commercial fishermen who use huge nets to catch the fish that is put in resturraunts and supermarkets. It is easy. They catch other unwanted creatures as they get tangled in the net. They should have to use a hook and worm for each fish.

Funny how people support commercial fishing, when in fact it kills waaaaaaaaay more animals that aren't even used for food then any sort of hunting. Actually cows and whatnot too. They raise the animals on a farm with no life of their own. They send them to the mass butcher...and they get rid of the defected ones. But hey hypocrisy is a bitch.
Bad analogy but feel free to try again.
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Bad analogy but feel free to try again.
How so?

If the real problem is that hunting for fun kills animals for no sensible reason other than trophys to be put up on the wall. Then the same products you buy in a store kills many innocent animals only for the purpose of being able to mass produce their product.

I don't see how 1 side is so wrong. And then one side isn't? Perhaps only because hunting is in view. While not many people really get to see cows getting knocked on teh head by sledgehammers?

Same thing. Only mass meat producers kill many more innocent/un-used animals than local hunters.

Hypocrisy.
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