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Old 12-21-2010, 09:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Charlie would have less teeth if he smoked meth habitually and to trust the word of a girl he's laying down with would be outright lunacy
Hes only 22. It takes a couple years before the teeth start falling out. His teeth are hideous and he does have a tweaker looking body. This chick had a ton of dirt on him that seemed legit... Especially considering his demeanor.
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So on third hand information you're going to condemn a scrawny white guy for being a meth addict? Not too mention from a skag that's humping said crank head? The guy's a jackass, twat, retard, but I'm not gonna profile him like some would.

I've never met a bulb smoker that would be willing to hit a heavybag, run, or spar, much less work his way up to be a champion Plenty of teens are in the missing teeth phase in no time too. Just check out the free dental clinics that pop up from time to time. Pretty disturbing.
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So on third hand information you're going to condemn a scrawny white guy for being a meth addict? Not too mention from a skag that's humping said crank head? The guy's a jackass, twat, retard, but I'm not gonna profile him like some would.

I've never met a bulb smoker that would be willing to hit a heavybag, run, or spar, much less work his way up to be a champion, Plenty of teens are in the missing teeth phase in no time too. Just check out the free dental clinics that pop up from time to time. Pretty disturbing.
Is this some kind of a joke? I really can't tell if you're being serious.

I deal with tweakers a lot. Charlie fits the profile perfectly. His ex substantiated a lot of claims that other people suspected for a long time. She was at multiple incidents where Charlies story didn't match anyone elses. she was the only one who would agree with him... And she said he flat out begged her to lie for him. She was also a stripper (most known for being drug addicts). Very convenient charlie was with a stripper but wouldn't do drugs. No ones claiming she's mother teresa... But the stuff she said made a lot of sense.

Not to mention Charlies character being PROVEN on multiple occasions to be the lowest of the low (threatening to **** and kill peoples families, go "columbine" on them, calling out all black people, ect...). Yeah, he totally seems like the type to not do drugs /sarcasm
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Is this some kind of a joke? I really can't tell if you're being serious.

I deal with tweakers a lot. Charlie fits the profile perfectly. His ex substantiated a lot of claims that other people suspected for a long time. She was at multiple incidents where Charlies story didn't match anyone elses. she was the only one who would agree with him... And she said he flat out begged her to lie for him. She was also a stripper (most known for being drug addicts). Very convenient charlie was with a stripper but wouldn't do drugs. No ones claiming she's mother teresa... But the stuff she said made a lot of sense.
I was being sarcastic about the champion part but would never believe the word of a stripper whose only claim to fame was bumping uglies with the Z train. So the dudes a liar, I think we all knew that. However him being a habitual dumbfack doesn't make him a crank addict. You seem fairly cool as far as bacon goes Pheelgood but like most cops you seem to want to ignore the innocent until proven guilty part. Has he done crank? Probably. Is he a dmbass? Well yeah. Is he a crazed meth fiend because some skank of a stripper says so? I'll reserve judgement until he is proven so. As far as I can tell he's a terrific troll that has more posts on a thread about him than many reputable mma'ists. Like Oldfan said, the mothereffer is living his dream and anyone who perpetuates it is just fueling the fire. Even the ignorant
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Is this some kind of a joke? I really can't tell if you're being serious.
Pheelgood, this "" is actually tabbed as "sarcastic12." I realize it looks like a guy jacking it, but we generally accept it as an indication of sarcasm.

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Hmmm... a stripper says her ex-boyfriend, a delusional, probably emotionally or neurologically damaged internet troll, is addicted to meth amphetamines. Who am I likely to believe in that story? Absolutely nobody.

I'm not a cop, but I wouldn't believe the stripper. I treat anyone associated with Charlie Z (regardless of whether they're saying things that are positive or negative) as a joke by association.

I don't doubt that the guy has done drugs, and probably does do drugs on a regular basis, but so do plenty of normal (whatever the hell that means) people. I'm not a particularly staunch defender of drug use, but it seems to me that there are a**holes who do meth and are nuts, and there are a**holes who don't do meth and are nuts. I have a very hard time telling the difference between the two, except for the teeth.

Zelenoff just looks like a skinny guy to me. Could he be on meth? Totally. Though, frankly, I think his behavior is better attributed to receiving a serious head injury at some point in his childhood. But that's just my two cents.

I just wouldn't base a case on the word of a stripper, especially one that was taking money to lie about sh*t before.
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Im sticking to the theory that he is the most elaborate troll of time. Or someone trying to get an acting career out of this shit.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I was being sarcastic about the champion part but would never believe the word of a stripper whose only claim to fame was bumping uglies with the Z train. So the dudes a liar, I think we all knew that. However him being a habitual dumbfack doesn't make him a crank addict. You seem fairly cool as far as bacon goes Pheelgood but like most cops you seem to want to ignore the innocent until proven guilty part. Has he done crank? Probably. Is he a dmbass? Well yeah. Is he a crazed meth fiend because some skank of a stripper says so? I'll reserve judgement until he is proven so. As far as I can tell he's a terrific troll that has more posts on a thread about him than many reputable mma'ists. Like Oldfan said, the mothereffer is living his dream and anyone who perpetuates it is just fueling the fire. Even the ignorant
Innocent until proven guilty is in the eyes of the government. I catch people in the act of the crime all the time. Pull them out of houses they broke into, with napsacks, crow bars, and carrying stolen property. Innocent until proven guilty my ass. That guy is guilty as hell! But that is just my opinion (and usually the truth). As far as the state sees it they have their right to a trial. Which I completely agree with. Doesn't mean their not guilty before court. IE some legal loop gets them off doesn't mean they didn't do the crime. /rant

Anyhow, I respect your opinion. I still think Charlie's a tweaker. All the signs are there.

I don't think for one second that he's smart enough to make this all an act. His emotions take him over and you can see how heated he gets over stuff. The guy is just a retard who craves attention. I'm fully convinced this guy believes the crap he spews. This stuff runs his life.

http://www.filedropper.com/show1441597

^Scroll to 53 min in. Listen to how his voice starts cracking like he's going to cry. ******* epic!
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