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Old 01-09-2011, 02:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There is having less skills in stand up and been completely stupid, surly even Duffee should of known not to walk into that clinch and to keeps his hands up when that close to the Reem.
maybe he just was overconfident?

I would think that if Duffee would have KO'd Overeem it would be good for business. They'd immediately have a new star in Duffee, and the Reem's stock wouldn't drop too much. He would still be a huge star in Japan.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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maybe he just was overconfident?

I would think that if Duffee would have KO'd Overeem it would be good for business. They'd immediately have a new star in Duffee, and the Reem's stock wouldn't drop too much. He would still be a huge star in Japan.
No way would it of been good for SF and Co, SF would of had to give him a title shot which would of screwed up the Tourney thats going on. and it would of weakened there position against the UFC and they have invested so much in that division to be in a position to challenge the UFC this year it just seems crazy they would take that risk.

Its would of given the UFC more ammo than Werdum beating Fedor did.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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See how many cockneys you can find who say Have not Of.

There is having less skills in stand up and been completely stupid, surly even Duffee should of known not to walk into that clinch and to keeps his hands up when that close to the Reem.
He couldn't lift his hands up because he got kneed really ******* hard in the liver.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/5/...chop-katsunori

This breaks down Kikuno's crescent kick. You will notice that when he hits his opponent with it his body hunches over, his arms drop, and he can't raise them back up to even attempt to defend the punches.

There is also often a slightly delayed reaction in this happening. Hopkins/De La Hoya for an example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjX-_JtV5Ss

Duffee's legs clearly went out from the last punch as well.
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He couldn't lift his hands up because he got kneed really ******* hard in the liver.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/4/5/...chop-katsunori

This breaks down Kikuno's crescent kick. You will notice that when he hits his opponent with it his body hunches over, his arms drop, and he can't raise them back up to even attempt to defend the punches.

There is also often a slightly delayed reaction in this happening. Hopkins/De La Hoya for an example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjX-_JtV5Ss

Duffee's legs clearly went out from the last punch as well.
Thats a good point it was the Knee that seemd to spot Duffee from fighting or even trying.

As for his legs going, I never questioned the fact that the KO was real, Overeem connected there is no doubt but that is not prof that it was not fixed, Duffee could still of left himself open to take that shot as real as the shot was, if you where going to fix a fight that woudl be the best way, a fake shot WWE style would get caught out, actually letting your opponent KO you is a much more effective way.
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