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KillerShark1985 01-08-2011 08:07 AM

Reem vs Duffee - Would you be surprised if it was a fix?
 
Ok this is all speculation and I guessing can never be proven ether way, but I can't honestly say the thought has not passed my mind a few times since watching this fight, first I ignored it in the hope it was just me and did not want to be the one to bring up a topic about it, I was kind of hoping someone else would say something, but now its been a while and that's never going to happen so I will say what I think and find out what you guys think.

First off when the fight was announced did it not seem like a huge risk that Dream, K-1 and last but not least Strikeforce was taking, obviously the 3 organisations listed above are deep in together helping to build strength from each other, and it just so happens that the Reem is the poster boy and there number one weapon in the fight to make the statement that SF has the No.1 HW division in the world. What if he had lost to a guy coming off a loss having just been cut by the UFC, surly there case for hosting the best HW division in the world would of been damaged beyond repair.

Then there was the timing of the fight, the Reem just weeks after winning the K-1 could not of been in training for a long time to go into am MMA bout, but the paying Japanese public want to see him fight been the super star that he is out there, so why would you not want him on your premium New Years Eve card, not matter if he was ready and had time to get ofer the K-1 finals or not.

So I think its safe to say they all 3 companies the Reem is the poster boy for had good reason to both get him on the fight card and make sure he won especially against an ex-UFC rising star who had just been cut.

Then the fight its self, the result could not of been any better, the Reem completely destroys Duffee who landed nothing in quick time, if your going to fix a fight what better way than a fast 1st round KO, this gives little action in the fight to analysis about Duffee's performance to see if he was really trying, but did he just stick his chin out and let the Reem have a clean shot that's the only debatable question?

I don't to me it just stinks of a set up because if your where going to fix such a fight it seems thats exactly how it would of gone down, I am not saying that the Reem could not of beat Duffee anyway but I am asking why would 3 organisational take such a risk with there poster boy at such a important time for the rise of the SF HW division?

For what its worth I still think the Reem is the No.1 HW in the world, give him the right time to prepare and train for a MMA fight I would expect him to destroy Duffee anyway but still the timing of this seem all wrong.

I am not saying I think it was a fix because I think the Reem could destroy him like he did anyway, just that I would not be surprised if it was.

I would also like to point out this could of gone down without the Reem ever knowing, all they would of had to say was "stick your chin out Duffee and let the Reem do the rest, you wont even know what hit you", then as a reward Duffee gets a nice fat contract to fight over in Japan and all his financial problems he was complaining about while he was in the UFC are sorted for life.

You have motive, you have a guy in the perfect position to pick to take the fall, you have the perfect result.

Any thoughts?

Walker 01-08-2011 11:36 AM

Would it be terribly shocking if a supposed "fix" took place in Japan on a DREAM card? No becuase it has happened in the past especially during the PRIDE days but I really don't think it happened in this fight. Is it possible that Duffee was paid to just show up it and try to put on a good show? Sure, but honestly I think it was more on Duffee's part that he jumped into this fight on late notice, got paid, knew he was fighting a super tough opponent and just went out there to last as long as he could.

He might have entertained some thoughts of trying to win and came out swinging but Alistair just walked through that and landed the big knee and the 2 good shots and it basically looked like Duffee said "Fukk this, this guy could kill me and I've got my paycheck" and just dropped. I don't think it was because he was paid to take a dive he was just there to get paid for showing up and let Alistair have a somewhat decent "name" opponent to treat like a pinata for New Year's Eve.

KillerShark1985 01-08-2011 12:04 PM

that's another possibility, but one thing is for sure, Duffee put up little effort to protect his chin while he was in Overeem reach and seemed to walk straight into his clinch, really dumb thing to do at best if he was hoping to win the fight, although that Knee he got hit with just before the KO did seem to suck the will to continue trying right out of him.

limba 01-08-2011 12:24 PM

I have another theory: Duffee just isn't that good. Take a look at his resume: Duffee's biggest win is against ....Hague!!! Seriously!!!!! His record is poor. He has beaten only CANS...lower ranked cans to be more precise. And he got put to sleep by Russow with one punch.

And Overeem is 10x better.
Bigger, stronger, more skilled, better trained, more experienced.

Duffee was just there to collect a paycheck. He took this fight on 2 weeks notice and had a poor training camp.

Doesn't this make more sense?!

I think it does.

rengiesuerte 01-09-2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walker (Post 1337922)
Would it be terribly shocking if a supposed "fix" took place in Japan on a DREAM card? No becuase it has happened in the past especially during the PRIDE days but I really don't think it happened in this fight. Is it possible that Duffee was paid to just show up it and try to put on a good show? Sure, but honestly I think it was more on Duffee's part that he jumped into this fight on late notice, got paid, knew he was fighting a super tough opponent and just went out there to last as long as he could.

He might have entertained some thoughts of trying to win and came out swinging but Alistair just walked through that and landed the big knee and the 2 good shots and it basically looked like Duffee said "Fukk this, this guy could kill me and I've got my paycheck" and just dropped. I don't think it was because he was paid to take a dive he was just there to get paid for showing up and let Alistair have a somewhat decent "name" opponent to treat like a pinata for New Year's Eve.

:thumbsup: A real treat for Alistair.

Ace70 01-09-2011 07:36 AM

If that was a fix, they did a crappy job of hiding it.

Mastermonster 01-09-2011 08:18 AM

That was a fix fight?! It was pretty darn good.

limba 01-09-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace70 (Post 1338446)
If that was a fix, they did a crappy job of hiding it.


Your post = trolling. You did a crappy job of hiding it.
:sarcastic12:

hellholming 01-09-2011 02:23 PM

1. "could of" = "could HAVE"
2. "would of" = "would HAVE"

seriously, english is supposed to be your first language.


3. you bring up a good point with the fix, but I really do think that Duffee is just overrated. Compared to Alistair, he has basically zero stand-up skills, and that showed.

KillerShark1985 01-09-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellholming (Post 1338635)
1. "could of" = "could HAVE"
2. "would of" = "would HAVE"

seriously, english is supposed to be your first language.


3. you bring up a good point with the fix, but I really do think that Duffee is just overrated. Compared to Alistair, he has basically zero stand-up skills, and that showed.

See how many cockneys you can find who say Have not Of.

There is having less skills in stand up and been completely stupid, surly even Duffee should of known not to walk into that clinch and to keeps his hands up when that close to the Reem.


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