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post #41 of 49 (permalink) Old 01-27-2011, 06:35 AM
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I have a long list but here are some highlights:
-anderson is almost 36
-vitor is a great boxer
- vitor is actually a really good fighter when he wants to be
-anderson is bored of fighting at mw
-anderson hates fighting brazillian
-anderson is on the decline due to age.

At the end of the day i have anderson winning but if he losses it will not matter. It has been a great run and it still amazes me he has been so damn good despite his age. All great athlete break down after 34. Its not like he losing to some bum. Vitor belfort is a legit opponent if he looses he losses. However if he had lost to chael sonnen my tone would be very different. Vitor belfort is a more decorated fighter than sonnen. I can accept a lost with him, sonnen was an underdog, vitor is a legit.
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It's a pretty valid excuse, the guy is 36...check out all the champions right now lol

GSP is 29, Shogun is 29, Frankie is 29, Cain is 28...he's the oldest champion at 36, and holds the record for most consecutive fights won in the UFC and most title defenses in the UFC. If he loses it would be a very valid excuse that his skills have deteriorated because of his age. Hopefully he retires with an impeccable record, but they'll likely have him fight GSP before he retires just to milk him for all he's worth, and I hope he wins that one too.
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It's a pretty valid excuse, the guy is 36...check out all the champions right now lol

GSP is 29, Shogun is 29, Frankie is 29, Cain is 28...he's the oldest champion at 36, and holds the record for most consecutive fights won in the UFC and most title defenses in the UFC. If he loses it would be a very valid excuse that his skills have deteriorated because of his age. Hopefully he retires with an impeccable record, but they'll likely have him fight GSP before he retires just to milk him for all he's worth, and I hope he wins that one too.
my point was that belfort is almost as old as silva, so age shouldn't be used as an excuse after the fight.

so why is there so much talk about silva fighting the much smaller gsp instead of fighting someone his own size like shogun? seems to me that silva pretended to be bored w/ the ufc but didn't rise to the challenge of moving up to fight shogun. it seems like silva is attempting to trick people into thinking he's the best without taking the risky challenge of fighting shogun, which in reality would be the only way silva could ever claim that best status.
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my point was that belfort is almost as old as silva, so age shouldn't be used as an excuse after the fight.

so why is there so much talk about silva fighting the much smaller gsp instead of fighting someone his own size like shogun? seems to me that silva pretended to be bored w/ the ufc but didn't rise to the challenge of moving up to fight shogun. it seems like silva is attempting to trick people into thinking he's the best without taking the risky challenge of fighting shogun, which in reality would be the only way silva could ever claim that best status.
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my point was that belfort is almost as old as silva, so age shouldn't be used as an excuse after the fight.

so why is there so much talk about silva fighting the much smaller gsp instead of fighting someone his own size like shogun? seems to me that silva pretended to be bored w/ the ufc but didn't rise to the challenge of moving up to fight shogun. it seems like silva is attempting to trick people into thinking he's the best without taking the risky challenge of fighting shogun, which in reality would be the only way silva could ever claim that best status.
Even though he's fought at lhw 2 times that doesnt make him a lhw fighter and you thinking he should move up to 205 and fight the best there is ridiculous, he's a mw fighter and he is the best in mw.
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Even though he's fought at lhw 2 times that doesnt make him a lhw fighter and you thinking he should move up to 205 and fight the best there is ridiculous, he's a mw fighter and he is the best in mw.
it's a hell of a lot more reasonable than him fighting little gsp since his walk around weight is that of a lhw. how the hell is that unreasonable? no one complained about a disadvantage for silva during the time when there was so much talk about him fighting machida, but now after machida's destruction by shogun it's a different story in regards to silva fighting shogun. in an interview, sometime after silva's refusal to fight machida and machida's loss to shogun, he said he was no longer interested in fighting at light heavyweight. it doesn't seem like dana is preventing it. if dana is then dana's trying to protect him from defeat in order to build his legacy, for some odd reason (silva vs shogun would obviously be a great draw for the sport).
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it's a hell of a lot more reasonable than him fighting little gsp since his walk around weight is that of a lhw. how the hell is that unreasonable? no one complained about a disadvantage for silva during the time when there was so much talk about him fighting machida, but now after machida's destruction by shogun it's a different story in regards to silva fighting shogun. in an interview, sometime after silva's refusal to fight machida and machida's loss to shogun, he said he was no longer interested in fighting at light heavyweight. it doesn't seem like dana is preventing it. if dana is then dana's trying to protect him from defeat in order to build his legacy, for some odd reason (silva vs shogun would obviously be a great draw for the sport).
Not really....neither Shogun or Anderson are huge draws outside of MMA fans that would probably already be buying the card anyway.

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No excuses.

Andy left no room for andyboys to use a "lack of motivation" excuse:

http://mmaweekly.com/ufc-126-anderso...e-of-the-sport

Training only in his home country of Brazil for the fight, Silva has a renewed vigor. His manager, Ed Soares, isnt sure what in particular lit the fire under the UFCs reigning middleweight champion, but the flame is white hot heading into Saturday nights main event.

Hes very motivated for this fight. I havent seen Anderson this motivated for a fight in a long time, Soares told MMAWeekly Radio. I dont know what it is (that is motivating him for this fight). I just know that for one reason or another hes very focused and motivated for this fight.

He likes training in Brazil. At the end of the day, its his home, and he likes it. He wanted to be near his kids, especially during the holidays. It would have been difficult training in a foreign country, especially without your kids.

Heading into his last fight, Silva was dealing with a sore rib suffered just a week out from his bout against Chael Sonnen. Following the fight, Silva took some much needed time off to recover and now that hes at 100 percent its a whole new ballgame.
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I have a long list but here are some highlights:
-anderson is almost 36
-vitor is a great boxer
- vitor is actually a really good fighter when he wants to be
-anderson is bored of fighting at mw
-anderson hates fighting brazillian
-anderson is on the decline due to age.

At the end of the day i have anderson winning but if he losses it will not matter. It has been a great run and it still amazes me he has been so damn good despite his age. All great athlete break down after 34. Its not like he losing to some bum. Vitor belfort is a legit opponent if he looses he losses. However if he had lost to chael sonnen my tone would be very different. Vitor belfort is a more decorated fighter than sonnen. I can accept a lost with him, sonnen was an underdog, vitor is a legit.
anderson is like a year and a half older than vitor. there is going to be no significant age difference here.

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