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Old 03-16-2011, 09:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Here's my take on these fighters:

Anderson Silva - I'll be the first to admit it--this guy's super talented, and I enjoy watching him fight (when he actually shows up to fight). Sometimes he seems pretty likeable, but most of the time I just get the impression that he thinks he's the best damn fighter to ever grace God's green earth. This and of itself doesn't bother me (and, hell, it may even be true), but the fact that he assumes the fans are too stupid to realize he's not as humble as he pretends to be definitely irks me.
This is the most intelligent, and frankly only real explanation for Silva disdain I've ever heard. As a Silva fan, I have even been a little annoyed by his comments like "the fans don't really know what's going on in there"... while that may be true. It is a degrading statement... though I'm sure he didn't mean it that way.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Sorry, but I think that is typical native English speaking arrogance. I haven't heard much of Silva speaking in English, but when he did it seemed that he didn't feel comfortable as he wasn't very good at it. So he probably just doesn't want to embarrass himself.

I usually tell native English tourists that I don't speak English and just send them plain in the wrong direction if they ask me for the way and start in English right away instead of at least trying a sentence like "Hello, I'm sorry I don't know your language, do you speak English and can help me?" a sentence which you will find in every tourist guide.
It's typical English speaking arrogance for him to be annoyed that someone doesn't try to speak the local language... but you send people in the wrong direction for not trying to speak the local language?

Did I miss something here, or is purposely ******* over someone looking for help not about a thousand times higher on the arrogance scale than just being pissed about the same offense?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If Lyoto isn't on this list, he should at least get the 'boobie prize'!

Seriously, the guy had one of the most epic fights of all time. (the first fight with Shogun)

I couldn't even dislike him after that special night. And the rematch too, but that didn't go too well for him.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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So silva is a tourist??? I fail to see your reference. I have herd his English. So he has the right to not speak in English without reason....But when a "tourist" asks for help you send them off in the wrong direction? Thats being a dick plain and simple. Arrogance? God forbid I get to hear an interview that doesnt have to go through someone else changing what he says
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It's typical English speaking arrogance for him to be annoyed that someone doesn't try to speak the local language... but you send people in the wrong direction for not trying to speak the local language?

Did I miss something here, or is purposely ******* over someone looking for help not about a thousand times higher on the arrogance scale than just being pissed about the same offense?
Silva at least tries from time to time to articulate some words in English, but he obviously isn't able or comfortable to give a full interview in that language. The arrogance I'm talking about is that English natives often demand of other people to learn and speak English, but most English natives are not willing to learn another language themselves. When Silva speaks to the audience he usually pronounces something like "Thank you my fans. I'm happy to be here." in English. I'm asking no more of tourists, I'm not asking that they learn to be fluent, just one or two sentences in the local language as a greeting to show some respect, then there is no problem to switch to English afterwards and I'm happy to help, I may even accompany them if I'm not in a hurry and the place they are looking for isn't too far. Every single tourist from a foreign country I've met was able to do that, even if they just read it out of their tourist guide. Only a majority of English native tourists unabashed started their questions in English right away without even asking whether I could speak English or not. Yes, that kind of colonial ruler attitude arrogance I meet with arrogance myself and that little extra walk I give them won't do them any harm.
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Anderson doesn't think the fans are stupid, he has some type of personality disorder that causes him to behave insecurely when he's in front of the masses.

That's all it really is, insecurity and disingenuity.
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Silva at least tries from time to time to articulate some words in English, but he obviously isn't able or comfortable to give a full interview in that language. The arrogance I'm talking about is that English natives often demand of other people to learn and speak English, but most English natives are not willing to learn another language themselves. When Silva speaks to the audience he usually pronounces something like "Thank you my fans. I'm happy to be here." in English. I'm asking no more of tourists, I'm not asking that they learn to be fluent, just one or two sentences in the local language as a greeting to show some respect, then there is no problem to switch to English afterwards and I'm happy to help, I may even accompany them if I'm not in a hurry and the place they are looking for isn't too far. Every single tourist from a foreign country I've met was able to do that, even if they just read it out of their tourist guide. Only a majority of English native tourists unabashed started their questions in English right away without even asking whether I could speak English or not. Yes, that kind of colonial ruler attitude arrogance I meet with arrogance myself and that little extra walk I give them won't do them any harm.
Sure, you think they're bad guests, so you act like a bad host. Poor excuse in my book.

I've been approached by plenty of Japanese tourists in America who can't articulate anything in English, and I didn't notice try to. But I can't imagine knowingly screwing them over for being "arrogant," and I do sometimes understand what they're asking, and help. Maybe the differences in languages just meant more of them had more trouble remembering the simple phrases than most of the European tourists I've talked too.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Sure, you think they're bad guests, so you act like a bad host. Poor excuse in my book.

I've been approached by plenty of Japanese tourists in America who can't articulate anything in English, and I didn't notice try to. But I can't imagine knowingly screwing them over for being "arrogant," and I do sometimes understand what they're asking, and help. Maybe the differences in languages just meant more of them had more trouble remembering the simple phrases than most of the European tourists I've talked too.
Well, it's hard for me to believe that these Japanese people you met were talking and acting to you in Japanese as they weren't in another country, but home in Japan. None of the Japanese people I've met did, they all showed some goodwill. And I wouldn't mind if it where some single cases, but common, you won't tell me that about 2/3 of English natives in several dozens occasion I had of these kinds are not capable of what almost 100% of tourists with other native languages could do¿ Either they are just dumber in average or it's their ignorance and arrogance towards other cultures. Memorising one little sentence or just a greeting in another language isn't that hard, especially if it's a language that is quite close to English and not completely different like Japanese. Usually those people I'm talking about would not even need to memorise a phrase, but just turn some pages in their tourist guide they're having in their hands and read the phonetic transcription.

Man, when I meet a new acquaintance and get to know s/he is originally from another country, you can be sure that next time I meet her/him I'll be able to say at least a "hello" if not even more in her/his native language which has always been appreciated. It's really not that hard.

Btw. I also hate it when I'm in another country and I see some of my fellow countrymen being ignorant and behaving as they were at home. I make no difference in my judging there (maybe I do, but rather in disfavour of my countrymen ).
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