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boney 05-01-2011 02:36 PM

so..did STEVEN SEGAL
 
REALLY INVENT THE FRONT KICK?

it seemed to work on couture and belfort.

segal was training with both silva and machida.

lol:thumb02:

Nikkolai 05-01-2011 02:40 PM

He never said he invented it. He just said he "modified" it. :laugh:

BobbyCooper 05-01-2011 02:45 PM

Seagal is a true Master in Martial Arts and he should get the Respect he deserves.

He is not a great actor not at all.. but you can't negate his Martial Arts background!!!

Mirage445 05-01-2011 02:52 PM

A lot of people are hating on Segal lately...

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that he may have a better way of doing a certain technique, especially considering he's been doing various forms of martial arts since he was a kid, and he's pretty up there now.

Is it because he was in a bunch of hokey martial arts movies filled with bad acting? I wonder how people would react if it were Bruce Lee in his shoes.

osmium 05-01-2011 02:53 PM

It is a joke, blackhouse is trolling mma fans.

BobbyCooper 05-01-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osmium (Post 1406429)
It is a joke, blackhouse is trolling mma fans.

they do a better job than you at it osmi :thumb02:

HellRazor 05-01-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirage445 (Post 1406428)
A lot of people are hating on Segal lately...

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that he may have a better way of doing a certain technique, especially considering he's been doing various forms of martial arts since he was a kid, and he's pretty up there now.

Is it because he was in a bunch of hokey martial arts movies filled with bad acting? I wonder how people would react if it were Bruce Lee in his shoes.

Well, yes, the 'hokey martial atrs movies' don't help. Although, if you look at the techniques he uses in his later movies, they're very valid. Lots of joints locks and throws, not so much high kicks, and super-speed hands.

I rather doubt he even 'modified' the front kick. He just went against current convention wisdom. These days, in sports fighting, the front kick is the teep. It doesn't end fights, it just lets the opponent know he might pay a price for trying to come throught the front door.

Two of the best stand-up guys in the world took the risk of going right for the chin, a takedown waiting to hapen if they miss, or the opponent blocks it. What happens if Evans or Koscheck or Lesna or Mendes or ... I could go on and on and on. it's bad for ALL of them. It's a high risk move. You need to have elite kicks AND elite defense off your back to make it worth the risk. There are very few of those guys. If you are one, go for it, because your opponent didn't train to defend it.

SeanY 05-01-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 1406423)
Seagal is a true Master in Martial Arts and he should get the Respect he deserves.

He is not a great actor not at all.. but you can't negate his Martial Arts background!!!

I disagree... Have you not seen 'Undersiege' and 'Hard To Kill' !?

zarny 05-01-2011 04:16 PM

Obviously Segal didn't invent the front kick.

From reports the relationship with Segal is more about business.

My guess is if Segal has had any influence it is tactical; more how to use a front kick.

As in "have you ever thought of aiming a front kick at the guy's face not his chest?"

All I know if whoever asked the question is a genius.

Fedornumber1! 05-01-2011 04:29 PM

Steven Segals is cool and all, but whenever I see him I can only think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXx3_ykUpfY


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