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**UFC_OWNS** · 05-11-2011, 06:58 PM

he would be subbed by penn in a click of the fingers

**TraMaI** · 05-11-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelfighter

I'm aware of why he's special. I've read the Tao, as well as seen just about every documentary I could find.

That's why I give him the early UFCs. But he could most assuredly lose, never forget the cliche "its MMA anything can happen" remember. Who's to say he wouldn't possibly get outgrappled by Gracie (the family would likely have sent a better Gracie had they known the greatest Martial Artist of all time, at the time, was competing).

If he was a young'un when the UFC first became popular and he started becoming a total fighter as a youth, I have no doubt that Uriah Faber wouldn't be slotted to fight Dominic Cruz. But for the sake of logic lets assume he has the skills he had in 1973. Against Dominic Cruz, Uriah Faber, Jose Aldo, and Mark Hominick (referencing fighters of comparative notoriety at similar weight) he'd be lucky to survive the first round.

I get what you m ean, but no one is saying that the Bruce of his day would beat the GSP, Gracies or Anderson Silva of our time with his specific skillset that he had when he died. His skill set wasn't what made him the greatest fighter of his time, it was his philosophy on martial arts, his drive and determination that made him the greatest of all time. He was the one that started saying "Holy shit, these martial arts are completely inefficient systems that can get beat by another system designed with another strength... so why don't I make one as well rounded and powerful as possible?" That's EXACTLY what MMA is. If he had the knowledge of today's martial arts scene compounded with his drive and determination, I believe he could've been the greatest MMA fighter to have ever lived. That's the same thing many others are arguing as well, not that the Bruce Lee from the 70s would've been a UFC champ.

Abrissbirne · 05-11-2011, 08:02 PM

haha i got negged because someone was too dumb to see the sarcasm

**Toxic** · 05-11-2011, 08:08 PM

Its all myth sorry to pop the bubble. Just like the one inch punch that many martial arts practitioners claim is possible. Funny how they can never even remotely come close. Bruce Lee would have gotten beaten by Royce Gracie or Dan Severn never mind what the guys in the UFC today would do to him.

**xeberus** · 05-11-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelfighter

In all seriousness, this has been done to death. Maybe against a first generation one-trick-pony MMA fighter he'd have a very solid chance. However, even against the second generation cross-training MMA fighters, he'd be pwned. Its a no contest comparing him to the third generation total MMA fighhters.

Moral: Bruce Lee was probably born too early for his skills to really be showcased and looked at intelligently, but not by much. If he'd been born 10-20 years later. There's little doubt Bruce Lee would have fought at UFC 1. And maybe even won. But today, he'd be lucky to make it out of the first round.

quoted for truth

**Machida Karate** · 05-11-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TraMaI

I get what you m ean, but no one is saying that the Bruce of his day would beat the GSP, Gracies or Anderson Silva of our time with his specific skillset that he had when he died. His skill set wasn't what made him the greatest fighter of his time, it was his philosophy on martial arts, his drive and determination that made him the greatest of all time. He was the one that started saying "Holy shit, these martial arts are completely inefficient systems that can get beat by another system designed with another strength... so why don't I make one as well rounded and powerful as possible?" That's EXACTLY what MMA is. If he had the knowledge of today's martial arts scene compounded with his drive and determination, I believe he could've been the greatest MMA fighter to have ever lived. That's the same thing many others are arguing as well, not that the Bruce Lee from the 70s would've been a UFC champ.

Good post Tra! I TOTALLY agree, he was the first MMA artist star, and his passion for fighting was the big part of who he was.

And the way he was able to use every muscle in his body into each blow was also amazing... And i agree that if Bruce had the knowledge of the fighters today and how all the different styles of this world have all come together, he would of been something special...

MMA was his vision and he wanted to be this exact thing, he was brilliant i just wish he could of competed in the Philosophy and Art he first acknowledged

I believe he would of pulled things that would change MMA forever...

If only he was born 15 years later

Now everyone copy and paste what you wrote for the next Bruce Lee would be the best MMA fighter Thread

**Toxic** · 05-11-2011, 10:25 PM

If Bruce Lee was half as great as the hype why on earth isn't everyone in MMA studying Jeet Kune Do. Fact is for all they hype and the pop and circumstance the truth is that Lee was just as baffled by all the mystique as everyone else in traditional martial arts at the time. His actual body of work in the style he created has not really caught on and has not changed martial arts. His physical feats and the talk of his philosophies are all just talk. Lee is not the father of mixed martial arts. Its all fine to say you wanted to be Bruce Lee as a kid but at the end of the day he made a bunch of flashy movies and conspired to trick the world into believing a bunch of bullshit. Bruce Lee didn't change the world he just tricked people into thinking he did.

The Gracies and Shamrocks did far more for the sport than Lee and would have had Lee tapping out in a matter of seconds.

**Ape City** · 05-11-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic

If Bruce Lee was half as great as the hype why on earth isn't everyone in MMA studying Jeet Kune Do. Fact is for all they hype and the pop and circumstance the truth is that Lee was just as baffled by all the mystique as everyone else in traditional martial arts at the time. His actual body of work in the style he created has not really caught on and has not changed martial arts. His physical feats and the talk of his philosophies are all just talk. Lee is not the father of mixed martial arts. Its all fine to say you wanted to be Bruce Lee as a kid but at the end of the day he made a bunch of flashy movies and conspired to trick the world into believing a bunch of bullshit. Bruce Lee didn't change the world he just tricked people into thinking he did.

The Gracies and Shamrocks did far more for the sport than Lee and would have had Lee tapping out in a matter of seconds.

I was gonna just rep you but I really felt like this was a

You basically just told all the kids Santa isn't real.