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Old 06-19-2011, 01:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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as bad as he is though how would cain,JDS,Carwin do against the 4 he lost two. Even though i agree he is not that good he still has won all the fighters where he was suppose to. Like u see cans but they have lost to other cans, like Griggs has lost to ott, whereas rogers has deafeated everybody but 4 top level guys.
Rogers lost 3 times, although the Warpath was questionable. Warpath is a complete can though. Like...a joke of a fighter. Much like the tirechanger.

I don't know about Carwin, but JDS and Cain would have no problem with at least Barnett and Fedor, Overeem would have a striker's chance against both.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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i think barnett can beat everyone in the ufc, whether he does that is another issue but he has the tools to beat any heavyweight, 30-5 is also a damn solid record for someone fighting the best heavyweights available to him, kharitonov is another fighter who is a bad matchup for anyone
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Rogers lost 3 times, although the Warpath was questionable. Warpath is a complete can though. Like...a joke of a fighter. Much like the tirechanger.

I don't know about Carwin, but JDS and Cain would have no problem with at least Barnett and Fedor, Overeem would have a striker's chance against both.
See that is where i have question marks, i know fedor has lost twice now but he got baited by wedum and big foot was to big for him. JDS/Cain would be a perfect match up. Remember Fedor has never been ko. As for Barnett he is the biggest question mark of them all. 4 years ago was the last time we saw him against top competition. Since then he has looked great against who he has fought so far. 4 Years is a lot of time for improvements. Who knows if his striking is really good now? BTW he has only lost to crocop 4 times and nog once.
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i think barnett can beat everyone in the ufc, whether he does that is another issue but he has the tools to beat any heavyweight, 30-5 is also a damn solid record for someone fighting the best heavyweights available to him, kharitonov is another fighter who is a bad matchup for anyone
Except for about half of the division that can take him down and outgrapple him.
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Except for about half of the division that can take him down and outgrapple him.
such as?
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Except for about half of the division that can take him down and outgrapple him.
who can what? barnett outgrappled prime randy ages ago and has obviously gotten way better since, he also has beaten rizzo by KO and monson in grappling along with a lot of other fighters like big nog in his prime, barnett has no real weaknesses.
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Dos Santos, Cain, Carwin, Mir, Nelson, Lesnar....etc.

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who can what? barnett outgrappled prime randy ages ago and has obviously gotten way better since, he also has beaten rizzo by KO and monson in grappling along with a lot of other fighters like big nog in his prime, barnett has no real weaknesses.
I was actually talking about Sergei.


Barnett is actually really good. I won't deny that, but I don't think he at all has the wrestling chops to deal with Cain, or even Lesnar.
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Dos Santos, Cain, Carwin, Mir, Nelson, Lesnar....etc.
I don't know he does have crazy submission defense, i can honestly say he is a better striker than mir,nelson,lesnar...maybe even carwin.
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I've never doubted Barnett's skills. He doesn't look that hungry though to me, to be honest. His fight with Yvel was pathetic.
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ok ill bite, barnett has beat these men and most in their prime and at their best

Dan Severn by SUB
Randy Couture by TKO
Semmy Schilt by SUB
Nakamura by SUB
Alexansander Emelieanenko by SUB
Mark Hunt by SUB
Big Nog by Decision
Jeff Monson by Decision
Brett Rogers by SUB
Gilbert Yvel by TKO submission punches
Hideheko Yoshida by SUB(judo 6th degree red and white belt)
Pedro Rizzo by KO
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