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Old 01-05-2012, 07:40 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Hunting is for wildlife's own good. Plain and simple. What natural predator do Bobcats have? If they are small its eagles or wolves....other than that zero...they have been known to kill each other when prey levels are low. Their protection level is the lowest it can be except in Ohio Indiana and New Jersey.

Back to my point legal hunting limits are made for a reason. Populations have to be regulated in every species for the good of everything around it
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:44 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Matt Hughes might be a dick but it doesn't have anything to do with his killing of a bobcat.

Bobcats are legal nearly everyhere and they're edible. I haven't eaten bobcat but have eaten mountain lion it's very tasty. Nearly all wild game is managed by humans and there are more deer, elk, small game and predators today than there were 100 years ago due to management and fees paid by hunters.

I've been hunting for nearly 30 years with a traditional bow and try to provide the majority of meat for my family through bow killed wild game. It's much healthier and more rewarding do do the killing and butchering myself rather than have the supermarket or stockyard do it for me. Haven't mounted anything yet but don't mind people who do regardless of the weapon they use within reason.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:48 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I hunt with a compound Bow and 270 Rem bolt action.....and for anyone who thinks hunting is easy how come I hunted almost everyday while I was home on leave and didnt pull the trigger once??? lol
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:11 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Can't wait to properly respond to this when in not on my BB, we all know Hughes is a religious ****head who lacks simple empathy for any creature, so not surprised at anything the heehaw yokel does.
No "we all" obviously know nothing. Hughes isnt a "religious ****head". He says hes a christian but he also drinks to the point of getting drunk (regularly), uses a witch doctor, and since im assuming you saw the summary on his book, its obvious he's not a christian. Not saying he couldn't have changed but he didnt act like he had any remorse in his book. A Christian simply wouldn't do those things, those are things everyone else do. He can say he's a christian all he wants but his actions and whats in his heart/mind are what he will be judged on, not what he said.

I'm not defending matt hughes, on any level, im defending hunting.

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I hunt with a compound Bow and 270 Rem bolt action.....and for anyone who thinks hunting is easy how come I hunted almost everyday while I was home on leave and didnt pull the trigger once??? lol

They simply have no idea what they are talking about. It's something people tend to do... speak without proper knowledge on the subject.

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Old 01-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Nice cat.

As far as 'Trophy Hunting', I think a lot of people are confusing it with poaching. Trophy hunting is hunting for a certain type of animal (usually the biggest) and letting the smaller animals walk. They might be after say a large buck, but they still eat it. Leaving or wasting the meat is illegal. That would be known as 'Poaching'.

btw, I've ate bobcat
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You guys should go write some angry letters to all the wolves and birds that have eaten bobcat babies alive. At least Matt didn't torture the thing.

If anything, nature is the asshole.
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I guess it could be worse, he could be shooting people.

I've had co-workers who were massive hunters and my dad's big into it himself, being from the South-East that's expected though. I've had deer before and I love it, not enough to go hunt it though. Hunting is pretty ******* boring to me.
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Bobcats aren't hunted for food. They are hunted to control the population because they are a nuisance and expense to farmers. Their fur is valuable. Ever own any fur?

I only showed the videos and mentioned KFC to make my point that except for the true vegetarians (how many we got?) this thread is full of hypocritical nancy boys.

dead is dead. Killing is killing. That Bobcat has no preference on whether he is eaten or skinned for his pelt or stuffed.

I used to hunt. Then I spent awhile hunting with a camera. I don't like to kill anything anymore it's just an excuse to be in the woods. But it is part of our nature as much as liking sex. Some people feel the urge to hunt as much as you feel the urge to breed. It comes from the same place and one is as wrong as the other.

People who express shock and disgust at this before they go to the fridge and make a cold cut sandwich are funny.

And maybe a little sheltered.
*raises hand*

I'm a vegetarian. Have been for about 19 years.

I'm not exceptionally upset by this. Not my thing obviously, but I don't get worked up about people disagreeing with me on this. It's an important issue to me, but it's not like I think everyone who disagrees with me is an inhuman POS.

I thought your point about cows, pigs and chickens was actually rather apropos. I don't really see much difference between this and people killing animals everywhere else. Hardly anyone in America needs to eat meat to survive, so to me it seems like everyone who does is essentially killing because they enjoy it.
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Nice cat.

As far as 'Trophy Hunting', I think a lot of people are confusing it with poaching. Trophy hunting is hunting for a certain type of animal (usually the biggest) and letting the smaller animals walk. They might be after say a large buck, but they still eat it. Leaving or wasting the meat is illegal. That would be known as 'Poaching'.

btw, I've ate bobcat
No, poaching is killing animals illegally. IE : killing animals out of their seasons, killing endangered species. Leaving the animal is a crime, but wasting the meat is not. You can legally freeze it and never eat it, which would be wasting it, or simply throw it away and it is not a crime. It's kinda like them saying, u can hunt but u have to clean up after yourself.

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I'm a vegetarian. Have been for about 19 years.

I'm not exceptionally upset by this. Not my thing obviously, but I don't get worked up about people disagreeing with me on this. It's an important issue to me, but it's not like I think everyone who disagrees with me is an inhuman POS.

I thought your point about cows, pigs and chickens was actually rather apropos. I don't really see much difference between this and people killing animals everywhere else. Hardly anyone in America needs to eat meat to survive, so to me it seems like everyone who does is essentially killing because they enjoy it.
Well, just because a family doesn't NEED it, doesn't mean it doesn't serve its purpose. A fair size doe could feed a family of 6 dinner for 2-3 days. And the meet tastes just like a steak depending on how well its prepared.

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Poor cat, I can't stand this shit.
If the guy is killing to eat (and to survive), that's one thing, but this?
Some times i wish something wiped our human asses from this planet, we don't deserve to be around.
What a clown, i hope he dies getting ripped by an animal.
No respect for this asshole.
Same here. Is it because animals can't say "I don't want to die" like a human can, that we should not give a ****? I love the old "humans contribute more to society than animals, they are way more important". Yeah lots of pedophiles, rapists, muggers and drug-addicts out in the animal kingdom...

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I'll never understand how people enjoy this shit. I understand hunting for food or to protect livestock but to just go out purely to kill something and be done with it is disgusting.
Exactly, theres killing for survival and killing just for the sake of killing. The latter is as spineless as it gets.

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Kill to eat..shoot deers, rats, hogs...whatever, animals that exist by millions...

Cats like that one are an endangered species. Because of retards like hughes, they will go extinct. And he is killing them for fun.

Maybe this way he gets his testosterone level up and feels like a man. Because his last fights made him look like a p*ussy.
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The fact that so many tards say stuff like this on a forum dedicated to human beings smashing each other's skulls, destroying bones and muscles and likewise trying to injure your fellow man as much as possible in the name of competitive sport is unfathomable.
Really? Are you comparing MMA to shooting an animal with a gun for a cheap thrill?? Are you seriously that delusional and do you really perceive that world in such a messed up way? Stellar.

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Eh, I'm not usually opposed to hunting as long as it's done in proper practice. I don't believe in killing animals for sport and I've never killed an animal in my life (or plan to) but if the area where Matt Hughes was hunting at the time has an overpopulation of Bobcats that need to be controlled...Then I just keep my mouth shut. I don't like it, but at some point it becomes necessary. My brother works in the wildlife/environmental industry over on the east coast and there has been a major invasion of Lionfish in Atlantic waters. Lionfish live for about 30 years, have very few natural predators, and can lay as many as about 30,000 eggs. Sometimes hunting a certain species is necessary to save other species and keep the ecosystem balanced.
I have my doubts that the bobcat situation is as bad as the one you mentioned, but you know Hughes would kill it anyways even if there was only 10 left and it was legal. I could never kill an animal either, unless I was out somewhere where it was the difference between life and death.


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You guys should go write some angry letters to all the wolves and birds that have eaten bobcat babies alive. At least Matt didn't torture the thing.
If anything, nature is the asshole.
So? They **** babies in Africa, humans that is. Are you comparing the intelligence of a human to the average animal? Again, for every "important" human to the planet, there are 10 totally useless and disposable humans who contribute not only nothing to society, but are in fact detrimental to it. Animals generally do nothing to harm the planet at all, which is the root of my overall frustrations over shit like this.
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