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Old 01-06-2012, 01:23 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:58 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Same here. Is it because animals can't say "I don't want to die" like a human can, that we should not give a ****? I love the old "humans contribute more to society than animals, they are way more important". Yeah lots of pedophiles, rapists, muggers and drug-addicts out in the animal kingdom...
That is correct. Don't forget murderers and the much more common cannibals.

Gotta love those sarcasm fails.

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Exactly, theres killing for survival and killing just for the sake of killing. The latter is as spineless as it gets.
And as the fine vegetarian gentleman stated, an exceptionally few amount of Americans need meat to survive, so any animal killed is for "the sake of killing" and because well...fatty Americans enjoy their McDonalds.





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Really? Are you comparing MMA to shooting an animal with a gun for a cheap thrill?? Are you seriously that delusional and do you really perceive that world in such a messed up way? Stellar.
Yes, I know.

I have taste.

I'd much rather see a human being bludgeon another with his bare hands and feet then a human killing an animal.

My brand of violence is just better than yours.






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I have my doubts that the bobcat situation is as bad as the one you mentioned, but you know Hughes would kill it anyways even if there was only 10 left and it was legal. I could never kill an animal either, unless I was out somewhere where it was the difference between life and death.
Sure you couldn't buddy.


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So? They **** babies in Africa, humans that is. Are you comparing the intelligence of a human to the average animal? Again, for every "important" human to the planet, there are 10 totally useless and disposable humans who contribute not only nothing to society, but are in fact detrimental to it. Animals generally do nothing to harm the planet at all, which is the root of my overall frustrations over shit like this.
Did you pull those numbers out of an Almanac or an Encyclopedia? Just curious.

Actually, we're all a big giant machine, so even those useless laborers dramatically affect the landscape of society in the long run.

As far those animals, yes, I'm sure those Bubonic plague spreading vermin did no harm....or various unchecked animal species that destroy ecosystems..etc, etc.



And a swing and a miss.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:10 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Swing and a miss is so last year.

All your "points" are sad to read. You should stop typing words on the internet in an attempt to effectively debate any such topic, as you are an ultra-cynical, angry little tyke. Your hatred of your life is clearly displayed with every post you type.

I'm not a vegetarian, and you are quite misinformed on the definition of sarcasm. I never suggested laborers were useless to society, you did. All you do is assume and generalize in all of your posts. Please try harder.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:01 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Oooh.....that reading comprehension...not quite there.

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Old 01-06-2012, 03:08 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Oooh.....that reading comprehension...not quite there.

Wow you said the same shit, only this time with a pic!!

Thanks for backing up everything I said about your worthless existence.
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:17 AM   #86 (permalink)
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I'm a nice guy though, I'll help you out, no matter how incompetent you may be.


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Swing and a miss is so last year.
Oh? I wouldn't have known nor cared, I say thing because I want to say them, not because they are trendy.



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All your "points" are sad to read. You should stop typing words on the internet in an attempt to effectively debate any such topic, as you are an ultra-cynical, angry little tyke. Your hatred of your life is clearly displayed with every post you type.
Ad-hominem with really bad, unnecessary verbiage. Yawn.

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I'm not a vegetarian
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No, that would be SmackyBear who I was referring to. Reading comprehension goes a long way.


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and you are quite misinformed on the definition of sarcasm.
You know, I never thought of that. You could be right. So, me, as a person who is totally not above learning things everyday, checked it out.

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Sarcasm
1:harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.
a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.
Hm. It seems that I HAVE indeed been using the word correctly all along! Now let's take a look at what I deemed, "failed sarcasm".


"Yeah lots of pedophiles, rapists, muggers and drug-addicts out in the animal kingdom..."

Well, let's see. I'm assuming this comment is made in jest based on the tone of it, yet it's a completely failure at using irony to make a point.

We can rule out drug addiction because of obvious reasons, but let's see

Pedophilia - Oh, yes, like those dreaded Bonobos having the sexual intercourse with other Bonobos not even old enough to breed. Pedophilia in the animal kingdom, no way!

Rapists- Oh, **** is QUITE common in the animal kingdom, believe it or not, survival of the fittest is a crazy thing, and in some crazy species the best rapist is the one who gets to carry on his legacy! Learning about scummy animals is fun!

Muggers - Theft?.....animals in the wild would NEVER sink that low. Hell, my relatives housecats wouldn't even do that. Don't be silly. Animals NEVER fight for food or objects ever. It's just not a common everyday thing.

Of course, I felt the need to add in a few things common in the animal kingdom...mainly murder and the fantastic cannibalism that is pretty common.
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I never suggested laborers were useless to society, you did. All you do is assume and generalize in all of your posts. Please try harder.
No that was more of a referendum on your asinine and hyperbolic, imaginary 10 to 1 ratio. I thought that much was obvious.




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Wow you said the same shit, only this time with a pic!!

Thanks for backing up everything I said about your worthless existence.

>> Accuse someone on internet of being angry.

>> Make angry, scathing, bitter posts.


>> Accuse someone on internet of being an "ultra-cynic"

>> Make up an absurd ratio accusing 10 out 11 people of being useless and detrimental to society.


>> Irony success!


The internet is fun!
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:21 AM   #87 (permalink)
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I'm a nice guy though, I'll help you out, no matter how incompetent you may be.




Oh? I wouldn't have known nor cared, I say thing because I want to say them, not because they are trendy.





Ad-hominem with really bad, unnecessary verbiage. Yawn.

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No, that would be SmackyBear who I was referring to. Reading comprehension goes a long way.




You know, I never thought of that. You could be right. So, me, as a person who is totally not above learning things everyday, checked it out.



Hm. It seems that I HAVE indeed been using the word correctly all along! Now let's take a look at what I deemed, "failed sarcasm".


"Yeah lots of pedophiles, rapists, muggers and drug-addicts out in the animal kingdom..."

Well, let's see. I'm assuming this comment is made in jest based on the tone of it, yet it's a completely failure at using irony to make a point.

We can rule out drug addiction because of obvious reasons, but let's see

Pedophilia - Oh, yes, like those dreaded Bonobos having the sexual intercourse with other Bonobos not even old enough to breed. Pedophilia in the animal kingdom, no way!

Rapists- Oh, **** is QUITE common in the animal kingdom, believe it or not, survival of the fittest is a crazy thing, and in some crazy species the best rapist is the one who gets to carry on his legacy! Learning about scummy animals is fun!

Muggers - Theft?.....animals in the wild would NEVER sink that low. Hell, my relatives housecats wouldn't even do that. Don't be silly. Animals NEVER fight for food or objects ever. It's just not a common everyday thing.

Of course, I felt the need to add in a few things common in the animal kingdom...mainly murder and the fantastic cannibalism that is pretty common.


No that was more of a referendum on your asinine and hyperbolic, imaginary 10 to 1 ratio. I thought that much was obvious.







>> Accuse someone on internet of being angry.

>> Make angry, scathing, bitter posts.


>> Accuse someone on internet of being an "ultra-cynic"

>> Make up an absurd ratio accusing 10 out 11 people of being useless and detrimental to society.


>> Irony success!


The internet is fun!
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:35 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Fixed.
Dude, I honestly stopped reading your posts when you were attempting to compare human actions to animal actions, which is basically comparing human intelligence to an animals.

Find me one example of an animal purposely torturing another animal to death with the SOLE purpose of inflicting as much pain as possible. Find me an example of an animal raping a young animal. How about one of an animal species attempting to wipe another species off the earth for their skin color? Or even one of an animal ripping the limb off another animal just for kicks and walking away?

Cmon man, you are an intelligent kid, im not questioning that. You just have such a bleek and dark view of the world and it shows in your posts. Please don't mistake me for some tree-hugging hippie either, what I hate is when a bigger, smarter species takes advantage of a far less and generally innocent one, especially for entertainment.

No point in continuing the argument, we know how the other feels five times over and it looks like its pretty concrete on both sides, so adios. I'm sure you're not done though.
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This thread has some obvious political talking points (from both sides) in it, but I don't think it should be such a black and white thing.

Lack of respect for life is a rather sad thing, and when you kill something for entertainment purposes you spit on all life itself. That's not political.

Obviously subjects such as these tend to pit one side against the other but even with valid points on both ends it would be hard to argue for killing just for the sake of killing.

You have the right to kill any animal that isn't under protected status pretty much; no one is changing that. However if you take it upon yourself to do so without valid reasoning then maybe that's something to self reflect on.

Personally I take the Natives approach to it.
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