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Old 08-13-2012, 04:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You are right, you don't want to be one dimensional in there, but at the same time you don't want to throw a telegraphed low kick at a guy with conditioned shins who will check it. Try to develop a quick teep because if it's blocked it won't hurt, and it's harder to counter.

The most important thing is defense, practice disengaging from the clinch (easy one is to just push your opponent's face away from you), practice checking kicks and try to stay out of elbow range.

Until you are better at using your knees and shins you should focus on a boxing based offense with teeps to keep the distance and excellent Thai defense.

Seriously though if you counter the low kick with a hard right cross you will have a lot easier time.
I meant to only quote the last part so whoops lol

That's realllllly good advice. Taking low kicks is never a great idea but checking them improperly is worse than absorbing and countering. Bite down on that mouthguard, put weight on that lead leg and let that heavy overhand fly against a fancy kicker and you'll catch him eventually.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I meant to only quote the last part so whoops lol

That's realllllly good advice. Taking low kicks is never a great idea but checking them improperly is worse than absorbing and countering. Bite down on that mouthguard, put weight on that lead leg and let that heavy overhand fly against a fancy kicker and you'll catch him eventually.
I would strongly advise agains this. putting weight on your lead leg and just taking a kick is a horrible idea and will have you unable to walk after 2-3 kicks. You are much better learning how to check or avoid kicks properly, and lets face it. If you cant check kicks, you have no business being in a ring anyway.

That being said, good luck
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I would strongly advise agains this. putting weight on your lead leg and just taking a kick is a horrible idea and will have you unable to walk after 2-3 kicks. You are much better learning how to check or avoid kicks properly, and lets face it. If you cant check kicks, you have no business being in a ring anyway.

That being said, good luck
I think this has been more of short notice advice or I could be mistaken? I agree if you have the time to learn techniques properly than do so, but it seems OP is strapped for time, partners and coaches and with out someone showing you how to check or do techniques properly might as well fall back on toughness and haymakers.

Lets face it though, amateurs hardly throw proper thai kicks anyways. The posture is all off, most drop guard and barely crossface. The overhand right on low kicks is there all day even on some professionals!
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I think this has been more of short notice advice or I could be mistaken? I agree if you have the time to learn techniques properly than do so, but it seems OP is strapped for time, partners and coaches and with out someone showing you how to check or do techniques properly might as well fall back on toughness and haymakers.

Lets face it though, amateurs hardly throw proper thai kicks anyways. The posture is all off, most drop guard and barely crossface. The overhand right on low kicks is there all day even on some professionals!
True, however he is having the fight in Thailand, where low kicks are practically the first thing they learn
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Why won't your coach spar with you? Surely he can go light.. Pad work in a ring is good but it's not enough.

spend 50% of your time with your coach sparring, spend the other working technique, the rest of the week practice technique and CARDIO!!!

Do some kicking only sparring so you can get used to checking a kick and knowing when it's going to come. Definitely try and check kicks but you have to take opportunities if you want to win. I wouldn't want you throwing a low kick on a guy if it's not natural to you yet though, it'll be telegraphed and he'll check it.. throwing your whole body into a kick to have it checked REALLY HURTS and as your shins aren't conditioned could possibly spell the end of the fight right there. Best of luck dude, keep us updated.

Where abouts in Thailand are you?
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Good point, I've got to read up a bit more before I make a post lol. Full Muay Thai rules, no coach, little training. Have fun!
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I meant to only quote the last part so whoops lol

That's realllllly good advice. Taking low kicks is never a great idea but checking them improperly is worse than absorbing and countering. Bite down on that mouthguard, put weight on that lead leg and let that heavy overhand fly against a fancy kicker and you'll catch him eventually.
You're on to something IF he can land otherwise his mobility will be shot after a round.

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I would strongly advise agains this. putting weight on your lead leg and just taking a kick is a horrible idea and will have you unable to walk after 2-3 kicks. You are much better learning how to check or avoid kicks properly, and lets face it. If you cant check kicks, you have no business being in a ring anyway.

That being said, good luck
Agree, he needs to plant his lead leg if he wants to catch the leg kick then try the overhand. But with his limited training his shins aren't even conditioned. Most likely fighting with shin guards.

I like his committment though even though I think it may be a bit premature.
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Cheers everyone for the advice, its good to hear different opinions and see which ideas keep coming back. I will be working on all my techniques as much as possible so will be checking kicks when I can but being offensive every time my opponent attacks is definitely going to be my plan. If I put too much energy into defending Ill just get beaten and do nothing, I want the guy to be afraid of attacking cos of what hell get in return, Im tall so thats a huge advantage with this as well. Bluffing is something Im working on as Im probably going to give away my attacks too much so need to trick my opponent, Im going to exploit the fact that Im a beginner and use it to my advantage.
To make it clear, I do have a trainer that I can spar with but sometimes well go a full week without training, hes doing it for free cos he loves Muay Thai but he has a family/job etc. Im in a town called Phetchaburi which is min. 1 hr from a good gym, I can go there Saturdays but not during the week and Im looking for things to help me get better with limited resources. I know its going to be a bit messy but Im in a position now where I can train and make the most of the situation, even if its not all the time or part of a team. Ill not have a chance like this for a long time cos Im constantly travelling and have just settled to teach for a year but will be moving again after the school year.
Its an opportunity I want to make the most of and if Im stupid for doing it, well, a few kicks to the head wont make much difference. I accept losing as a huge possibility but am going into it with conviction and the will to destroy my opponent in blue (underdog) shorts.
Thanks again for all the comments and to Will for the videos; Ive been practicing some of your techniques.
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I'll give you a bit of advise that my first boxing coach gave me back in the day that has never left my mind.

When you are training hard and you want to quit, think, "Is my opponent doing this, is he quitting now?" Every work out you have always think that, and it should motivate you to push that little bit further.

There is no better feeling than knowing you are doing more than your opponent in training. For example, getting up early and running while you imagine that you opponent is still asleep.
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If you have a big gas tank on fight night then use this philosophy, to attack is to win, to defend is to lose.

The Nick Diaz strategy if you will.

I am going to go back to Thailand in early 2013 and train for a month then have 2-3 fights before I come home, if you are still there and need a sparring partner i'd love to help.
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