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Old 05-19-2008, 10:42 AM   #191 (permalink)
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speaking of Larry Holmes I spoke to Jerry Cooney who fought Larry. It's been almost 10 years since I spoke to Gerry and 17 years since I spoke with Larry. Gerry told me that Larry's jab was stinging not crushing with no ko power behind it. this also recalls my previous conversation with Holmes regarding Tommy Morrison who had a big quick left hook. Larry responded "Yeah! he's easy because your going to see his left hook coming from a mile away. Larry would know since he fought Cooney who is regarded as having one the best left hooks ever. remember a good boxer is going to pick you apart not KO you off the start this why people who fought Ali came out cut up and bruised as opposed to broke up. I talked Jimmy Young many years ago who fought Ali and he described Ali's jab as a pump and not a hammer his aim was to cut you not brake you. you can tell who is the boxers from this thread. "Mike Tyson could knock you out with an open glove. I wish I had that kind of power". Micheal "jinx" Spinx "Mike Tyson's punch is so powerful that he could knock you out with out putting his hips into it" larry Merchant

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:02 AM   #192 (permalink)
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LALALALA!!!!NO HIPS!!!LALALALA!!!
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:33 AM   #193 (permalink)
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See here in lies the problem. In order for one to execute a punch from hips he first has to plant his feet, then sink his ankle on his right back leg into the ground so that he can spring off of it generating the power etc. However a boxer is going to read that and as we call it in boxing get on his bicycle and start back peddling and giving his opponent angles . this will immediately make his opponent switch from power to speed or as we call it cause him to shoe shine. he knows the cardinal rule don't stand in front of the puncher.

Lou Savarese thought like that back when he fought David Izon I warned him about Izon I told him don't worry about landing your left hook Izon is much to quick for that he'll come under it and then come over the top answering with his own left hook. I also warned him against throwing a power jab against him because he'd put his foot out to the left and slip the punch and answer it with the left hook. I explained to him that the only way Izon could beat him was with the left hook straight right hand combination being that he was shorter. " We've got it figured out" Savarese and in the fifth round he throw a power left Izon came up and over it and knock Lou threw the ropes I was right there.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:07 PM   #194 (permalink)
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You do know the reason why Ali's jab was so effective right?
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:01 PM   #195 (permalink)
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why was it so effective?
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:01 PM   #196 (permalink)
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Bouncer all I know is a lot of people have listed really good points and you havent listened to a damn thing. Just think about the weight of your arm vs the weight of your body behind a punch.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:19 PM   #197 (permalink)
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" he's got to hit you first" Larry Holmes when asked about Morrison's power.
I could hit Ali with a Mack truck do you think that he's gonna be there?
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:25 PM   #198 (permalink)
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why was it so effective?
Because he flicked his hip into it.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:10 PM   #199 (permalink)
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Why aren't you responding to the stuff people are saying? You just keep posting quotes about speed... Not about power
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:56 PM   #200 (permalink)
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recon I am responding to peoples comments and questions I was a heavyweight boxer I knew the whose who of the game along with top trainers many which I had. and the first thing that I had to learn what works in the street and bar doesn't work in the ring, because unlike a telephone booth the ring is far to big and someone who is a runner will just run around the ring fighting only for 1 minute of every 3:00 minute round. it's exhausting trying to catch them let along swing and miss. and a good boxer knows that it waists more energy to swing and miss then to swing and hit once your energy is down so is you. I hope I've answered some questions.
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