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Because he flicked his hip into it.

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recon6991

Why aren't you responding to the stuff people are saying? You just keep posting quotes about speed... Not about power

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ex-bouncer

recon I am responding to peoples comments and questions I was a heavyweight boxer I knew the whose who of the game along with top trainers many which I had. and the first thing that I had to learn what works in the street and bar doesn't work in the ring, because unlike a telephone booth the ring is far to big and someone who is a runner will just run around the ring fighting only for 1 minute of every 3:00 minute round. it's exhausting trying to catch them let along swing and miss. and a good boxer knows that it waists more energy to swing and miss then to swing and hit once your energy is down so is you. I hope I've answered some questions.

recon6991

Yea that makes sense trying to catch a guy would tire you out, but if you didn't chase a guy wouldn't he lose points for not engaging you? But it seems everyone is just talking about the mainstay of power for a punch generating from your hips. I agree a bit comes from your arms. Bruce Lee worked out his forearms an amazing amount because he thought it made his punches stronger (from a Muscle and Fitness article) but I think you would be hard pressed to find good supporting evidence to prove that power (KO power that is) comes from your arms. I am with you that little nat like annoying punches you use when a guy is not actively trying to exchange with you don't come from your hips but I don't think thats what people are talking about. Oh, thats pretty tight you used to a be a game boxer man, congrats!

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ex-bouncer

I never said power from the arms is more stronger than from the hips obviously that is not so. what I am saying is that most fighters use that as a finishing move on a guy that is tired out. from what I've read and maybe I read wrong but many people think its game to just wing it off the bat and this is where I am saying not. boxing is a game for those who have incredible power and speed and I didn't have that so therefore I was not a champ. As far a point deduction goes there is an old rule that points shall be awarded to the aggressor that however changed with Larry holmes,John Ruiz, Roy Jones. who game consisted of throwing 1 to 2 punches and then going into the clinch in boxing its called clunches and bunches. boxing is not any more a real indicator of superiority. and no they don't take away points for to much holding or lack of action, go not throwing the lead right hand.

recon6991

Yea but this aint a boxing forum its MMA, most fighters have good boxing skills blended with other skills to complete the package in order to compete at a higher level, did you check out the video I posted? Look at it, then look at the punch that knocked Chuck Liddell down in their second fight. Thats mma, not boxing, in boxing most mma fighters would lose, in mma boxers would lose- thats not really and argument. Hence different styles.

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ex-bouncer

I think that probable true and that is boxing wouldn't work in the mma because of the rules, thats a valid point.

Yung Boss

what!!!!!! tell that guy to suck ass. Thai boxing would beat the shit out of tkd...i mean dont get me wrong there a lot of kick ass tkd practioners out there but in a general sense muay thai was designed to pummel the opponent with one kick while in tkd they focus more on how high or how fancy or how much they can kick, it's total bull