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Old 06-04-2007, 11:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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O_O; I don't think I know anyone who does. If I may ask, and I do mean this in a respectful way (being a strong believer of 'to each, their own'), what is it that you like about it?
i dunno its kinda grown on me i guess since i've been doing it all my life and i find it fun
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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i feel like i have had an exceptional learning experience b/c I am learning boxing and kickboxing/thai boxing along with TKD (knees, elbows, spinning, turning and aerial kicks) and spar regularly (when i'm not hurt). this gives me a better understanding of distance control, tiring out an opponent who's bigger than me, jamming an opponent to conserve energy, not telegraphing my punches etc. Not all dojangs have such a well-rounded curriculum, obviously. I was just fortunate to find a teacher who had backgrounds in TKD, boxing, grappling and had studied other arts as well, including kune tao.

I have been rehabbing a broken ankle for the past 9 weeks and when I come back from TKD, I have more flexibility, less pain and greater mobility in the ankle.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:39 PM   #43 (permalink)
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the biggest problem i found with tkd and most traditional styles was the lack of drills. maybe i went to the wrong schools but i never learned anything about how to counter and time when sparring. i mean never. i had to just blindly figure it out. they taught us kicks and combos etc, but never did we drill and stand there and have some one throw a kick and you practice just blocking and countering with timing drills etc. like you see in boxing and kick boxing. i mean never ever did we do that stuff in tkd.
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the biggest problem i found with tkd and most traditional styles was the lack of drills. maybe i went to the wrong schools but i never learned anything about how to counter and time when sparring. i mean never. i had to just blindly figure it out. they taught us kicks and combos etc, but never did we drill and stand there and have some one throw a kick and you practice just blocking and countering with timing drills etc. like you see in boxing and kick boxing. i mean never ever did we do that stuff in tkd.
i think thats more cause of the place you went to...
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:17 PM   #45 (permalink)
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i went to three different karate schools. all we did was learn how to throw kicks in the air. did forms. then we would put on pads and spar. you guys actually did drills like you see in boxing and kick boxing? example would be you put on head gear in boxing /kick boxing and you practice just letting youre partner throw punches and kicks and you just practice dodging parying and timing the punches and kicks being thrown at you , and then adding countering drills where youre partner throws a kick or punch and you practice just countering the kick or punch etc.then as you get that drill you start doing it with random timing where i throw a right or a left and you dont know which one im going to throw or when ,you parry or block then throw a counter i mean where youre partner is throwing randomly and you are getting hit at first and then as you get the feel for his timing you start feeling when he is gonna throw a punch or kick and you are able to counter for real. not just i throw a kick and this is how you block it. i mean breaking each range and offence and defence and timing into small pieces and drilling each small chunk and then slowly adding them all together. ive never seen this at karate schools, ive only seen this at kickboxing and boxing schools

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Old 06-05-2007, 01:49 PM   #46 (permalink)
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He is the way I see it

one TKD is the most americanized style because of the war (a little history for ya). So you wont have any problem finding a teacher.

Two TKD can be experienced differently depending on the teacher. Some TKD teachers are really hardcore teachers That can turn you into a monster. But then there are those that teach it as a sport. For instance My dad is a brown belt in TKD and he had a real kick ass instructor but a nice guy outside of class.

The best story he ever told about his instructor. One of the former students Went to take Bjj but when he went there the bjj instructor was a big headed ass hole and beat up the student. When my dads instructor heard about this he was furious. My dads instructor went the dojo and talked to him.
He said " I hear you claim that you can catch any TKD kick." The Bjj instructor said "Thats right." My dads in structor said " Catch mine!" He kicked the bjj instructor clear across the room right in front of his class The left.

Three TKD will have get you in shape and make you more flexable quicker because it takes alot to continue to throw high kicks in combinations like that instead of just low kicks and punches.
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Muay Thai will get you in shape quicker in my opinion. It is A LOT more than just kicks and punches and half of Muay Thai is awesome Cardio. I took TKD also and have friends that took it at other places along with people in my Muay Thai class that have all said the same thing as KHELL. I absolutely love Muay Thai and I get my ass kicked in every class because of the cardio conditioning you get and all the sparring. It is fun though
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i went to three different karate schools. all we did was learn how to throw kicks in the air. did forms. then we would put on pads and spar. you guys actually did drills like you see in boxing and kick boxing? example would be you put on head gear in boxing /kick boxing and you practice just letting youre partner throw punches and kicks and you just practice dodging parying and timing the punches and kicks being thrown at you , and then adding countering drills where youre partner throws a kick or punch and you practice just countering the kick or punch etc.then as you get that drill you start doing it with random timing where i throw a right or a left and you dont know which one im going to throw or when ,you parry or block then throw a counter i mean where youre partner is throwing randomly and you are getting hit at first and then as you get the feel for his timing you start feeling when he is gonna throw a punch or kick and you are able to counter for real. not just i throw a kick and this is how you block it. i mean breaking each range and offence and defence and timing into small pieces and drilling each small chunk and then slowly adding them all together. ive never seen this at karate schools, ive only seen this at kickboxing and boxing schools
the drills you describe, and variations of them, make up a significant portion of our tkd classes. of course we still do forms, static blocking & punching drills etc. and we point spar or continuous spar once a week. but we do lots & lots of the boxing type drills you mentioned. it's fun and i get a great workout but damn those kids hit hard!
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Muay Thai will get you in shape quicker in my opinion. It is A LOT more than just kicks and punches and half of Muay Thai is awesome Cardio. I took TKD also and have friends that took it at other places along with people in my Muay Thai class that have all said the same thing as KHELL. I absolutely love Muay Thai and I get my ass kicked in every class because of the cardio conditioning you get and all the sparring. It is fun though
Yha well Like I said depending on the teacher can chang your experiance.
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Is this debate really happening? Are there really people in this world foolish enough to believe that TKD is even in the same league of effectiveness as MT?

Somebody posted earlier that TKD was for pre-teen girls who's parents wouldn't let them take anything where they could get hurt and I couldn't agree more. TKD in a real fight is laughably ineffective, along with most of the traditional martial arts. I'm not saying they dont have their place but combat sports and street fights are definitely not it.
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