Pepe

i mean i think it's ignorant to consider one art better than another, i do seven star praying mantis kung fu and i sparred and destroyed my friend who is taller than me more reach and did muay thai.

But i still not only do kung fu but know some bjj for groundfighting and basic muay thai.


and i heard that in one of the first ufc fights it was a kung fu guy in it who had a broken arm and he beat the shit out of the guy.

i'm guessing it depends how you train, if you fought a kung fu artist who trains for the street, muay thai could probably win and with muay thai rules of course

but a kung fu artist who trains for mma obviously doesn't only do kung fu

HexRei

The problem is that most kung-fu fighters I've run into (and I know several people who train it, including two who are sifu themselves with fairly large classes) are convinced that kung-fu is all one needs. They get hooked on the spiritualistic, ritualistic, and forms bullshit and even the ones who are pretty good at kung-fu point fighting end up being essentially terrible fighters in an MMA rules fight, especially against anyone who has a ground game.

I think this is a problem largely with the kung-fu community and mindset and not the art itself. For whatever reason (perhaps better penetration of MMA into Japan and thus Japanese martial arts) Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and Judo seem to have made much more successful transitions into MMA- each of those arts has representative fighters in the higher echelons of MMA. Not so much Kung Fu.

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Cyclist

As a Kung Fu guy. I agree with him.

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Robopencil

While I do think that some martial arts really are better than others, I think that individual skill can really help to bridge the gap. But I don't care how good you are at Tai-Chi...

Robopencil

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, I'm really not. But what TKD fighters do you know who are at the top level of MMA? I've heard of a few fighters who trained TKD as kids, and one fighter who said he wasted his time earning a TKD black belt, but that's the extent of my knowledge.

I know of a few top name fighters who trained Karate as teenagers GSP and Liddell. And of course Machida who still trains Karate.

I think most of us can name some Judoka.

americanfighter

kung lee trains Kung fu and TKD Doesn't he.

I took tkd for a while (Because it was free at my collage) I think TKD could be a huge help in MMA but its only one part. Like everyone else you have to be well rounded you have to have wrestling kickboxing and jiujitsu to be successful. But if you can master some of the basic kicks in TKD like the front and side It could be very help full.

Like bruce lee said the best style is no style at all. And when he made JKD he put the sidekick of TKD the holds of BJJ the throws of judo knees of MT the takedowns of wrestling and the punches of western boxing and kung fu.

if you would learn to throw kicks like bruce I am sure that would help alot.

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Robopencil

You're right, I forgot about Cung Le. He does have a TKD blackbelt, though I think he just trains his San Shou, and BJJ now.

Maybe there is more room for people who utilize kicks and strikes in the way that Cung Le does, but it seems like a lot of people have difficulty striking that dynamically.

LoganDaBoxer

I'd say Muay Thai would win, because it is a more practical disclipine for actual fighting and competition. There are way too many weapons in muay thai. I like Kung Fu, but in an actual fight, the edge goes to Muay Thai.

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Pepe

exactly my point, at my school i'm one of the top fighters now due to my friends teaching of some muay thai techniques and some groundfighting, before every class we work some combos with knees elbows and then we wrestle around, then when class starts its mostly kungfu but it's all good
and thanks to my friend opening my mind i've been on this amazing forum finding new techniques, as a kung fu fighter i'm pretty good with my knees :P