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StephenRay 05-16-2008 09:31 AM

Muay Thai Round House Kick advice request
 
I have been interested in the Muay Thai round house kick because I want my son to learn it.

Does anyone know of a good instructional video?

But I was alarmed when I came across this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgh6...eature=related


What happened? Is the lifted knee just a good defense against a Muay Thai Round house, or was this not proper kicking technique, or what?

Is the Muay Thai round house kick slow? Is it that easy to defend against? Is the Karate round house faster?

I also found this: http://www.expertvillage.com/video/6...roundhouse.htm

I am in love with this instructional and this woman too. Be sure to see her website at: http://www.mellei.com/

Also her father's website at: http://www.h2hctc.com/home.htm There are some pictures of her kicking in there that are pretty spectacular. Her father was in Army Special Forces.

Sorry for the distracting woman, but she is so perfect.

Couchwarrior 05-16-2008 10:29 AM

Ok there are lots of people on this forum who know more than me about muay thai, but until they find this thread I'll try to answer some of your questions.
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Originally Posted by StephenRay (Post 546925)
But I was alarmed when I came across this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgh6...eature=related


What happened? Is the lifted knee just a good defense against a Muay Thai Round house, or was this not proper kicking technique, or what?

I'd say it was a freak accident. I've seen or heard about that happening three times all together, so I guess it's very unusual. The guy defending the leg kick tried to block with his shin, which is the standard thing to do, and the kick obviously had a lot of power, which kind of is the whole idea.
Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenRay (Post 546925)
Is the Muay Thai round house kick slow? Is it that easy to defend against? Is the Karate round house faster?

I also found this: http://www.expertvillage.com/video/6...roundhouse.htm

I guess it's relatively slow if you're talking about kicking many times in row, but of course you'll get faster with practice. The video with the girl does not display a muay thai roundhouse kick. In muay thai, you don't chamber your leg before kicking, and you try to hit your opponent with the shin, not the foot. I don't know if the karate roundhouse is faster, but probably... At least it has a lot less power than the muay thai roundhouse.

StephenRay 05-16-2008 12:11 PM

Thanks for your reply, CouchWarrior, The Muay-Thai Roundhouse must generate tremendous power, either that or that guy's bones must be thin from cancer. Why did that guy have such a weak shin? I saw on the "Fight Science" video that a Muay-Thai's shins get lots of bone strengthening from repeated practice striking on the bags.

By the way, I know that girl is not showing a Mauy-Thai kick. It's a Karate Kick. But it appears to be faster than a Mauy-Thai style. If the Mauy-Thai is always so slow, and if the defense is as easy as lifting your knee, then why bust your shin?

pauly_j 05-16-2008 07:07 PM

With a certain amount of power someone's shin is going to break and the strain is always on the person kicking. The force only goes up to the point where it breaks and then it's done, if you get what I mean. Like when people clash heads, only one person gets cut.

Zemelya 05-16-2008 08:38 PM

the broken leg video is super disgusting... i myself been wondering for a long time how the hell that happened. people hit the checks all the time just watch the K-1, on other hands i heard that they dont usually kick that hard there b/c it just dangerous -> if you dont break it, it's gonna hurt as hell even for the super shin conditioned guys like them - seen more than one fight end b/c of that. Keep in mind that it probably was 2 professionals, if your shin is conditioned you can easily win a fight just using that -> hit them in the shin, make them cry

Yes it is pretty easy to block the roundhouse like that (at least to the leg) but it's not slow at all. with practice it just gets faster and harder. properly executed can break someones leg (especially if someone is not MT dude and doesnt know about checking and like most of them doesn't even expect kicks)

Couchwarrior 05-17-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenRay (Post 547029)
Thanks for your reply, CouchWarrior, The Muay-Thai Roundhouse must generate tremendous power, either that or that guy's bones must be thin from cancer. Why did that guy have such a weak shin? I saw on the "Fight Science" video that a Muay-Thai's shins get lots of bone strengthening from repeated practice striking on the bags.

By the way, I know that girl is not showing a Mauy-Thai kick. It's a Karate Kick. But it appears to be faster than a Mauy-Thai style. If the Mauy-Thai is always so slow, and if the defense is as easy as lifting your knee, then why bust your shin?

It's a lot more common that a fighter successfully blocks a leg kick in kickboxing fights than in MMA fights, it seems. A good fighter can kick fast, and you need good reflexes to block the kick. It might also be smarter to open up first with a combination of punches and then throw the leg kick, so that the opponent hopefully is distracted and doesn't react fast enough to block the kick in time.

I don't know what was wrong with his leg. I've seen a video of a show wrestler jumping from the ropes and breaking his leg when he hit the canvas. Sometimes crazy things like that happen, I don't know the reasons.

JIKI 05-19-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenRay (Post 546925)
I have been interested in the Muay Thai round house kick because I want my son to learn it.

Does anyone know of a good instructional video?

But I was alarmed when I came across this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgh6...eature=related


What happened? Is the lifted knee just a good defense against a Muay Thai Round house, or was this not proper kicking technique, or what?

Is the Muay Thai round house kick slow? Is it that easy to defend against? Is the Karate round house faster?

I also found this: http://www.expertvillage.com/video/6...roundhouse.htm

I am in love with this instructional and this woman too. Be sure to see her website at: http://www.mellei.com/

Also her father's website at: http://www.h2hctc.com/home.htm There are some pictures of her kicking in there that are pretty spectacular. Her father was in Army Special Forces.

Sorry for the distracting woman, but she is so perfect.

well karate roundhouse is a different shit.
in karate u lift ur knee and then u snap ur leg , in karate u hit with ur toe not with ur shin! , in MT (for base leg) u make a 45 degree angle by moving ur left leg to the left , while doing it u twist ur left toe paralel ur left shin, it makes ur hips to twist so u will deliver a power , than u strike with ur base leg! u strike while u twist ur left leg!
and that video was an accident it seems taht his lleg was not conditiond

pauly_j 05-20-2008 07:06 AM

You do not ever kick with your toe. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

sprawlbrawl 06-04-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenRay (Post 546925)
I have been interested in the Muay Thai round house kick because I want my son to learn it.

Does anyone know of a good instructional video?

But I was alarmed when I came across this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsgh6...eature=related
the thai kick is a power kick lifting your leg is not the proper defence it is better than taking it on the leg ,but you have to also turn your knee out to catch the guys shin on your knee cap very painful for the kicker have seen legs get broke

What happened? Is the lifted knee just a good defense against a Muay Thai Round house, or was this not proper kicking technique, or what?

Is the Muay Thai round house kick slow? Is it that easy to defend against? Is the Karate round house faster?

I also found this: http://www.expertvillage.com/video/6...roundhouse.htm

I am in love with this instructional and this woman too. Be sure to see her website at: http://www.mellei.com/

Also her father's website at: http://www.h2hctc.com/home.htm There are some pictures of her kicking in there that are pretty spectacular. Her father was in Army Special Forces.

Sorry for the distracting woman, but she is so perfect.

the thai kick is a power kick lifting your leg is not the proper defence it is better than taking it on the leg ,but you have to also turn your knee out to catch the guys shin on your knee cap very painful for the kicker have seen legs get broke

swpthleg 06-04-2008 06:05 PM

do thai fighters chamber up their roundhouse kicks or not?


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