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Old 06-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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@ Shatterproof,

If you build up the Trabeculi would it be a good idea to increase the calcium intake as well?

I spend about a total of 6 hours a week working on a heavy bag.

Right now I don't really feel anything when I throw any leg-strike with my right, does this mean there's a fair bit of this Trabeculi stuff built up or the nerves are dead on the shin?

I take from the discussion in this thread the deadening of the nerves is a good thing.

Working on squats would be a good way to strengthen the leg-muscles that you guys are talking about right?
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
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What your looking to accomplish is building what is kown as trebeculi in your bones. think of it as webbing that can be formed by beating the area repeatedly....it can be strengthend but it takes a long time......

your idea...sounds kinda dumb....why not just bare against a heavy bag????
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There are a great many ways to condition your shins:
1. Hitting a heavy bag. Throwing kicks to a heavy bag, especialy leg kicks to the bottom of the bag where it is hardest.
2. Checking kicks. Doing attack and defense drills with a sparring partner, i.e. checking leg kicks and countering, things like that is an effective overall training method that happens to include great shin conditioning. Warning! Edemas(fluid filled bulbs) all up and down your shins with this one!
3. Traditional Conditioning. In traditional Martial Arts, specifically Japanese and Chinese arts, there is a form of conditioning that includes a 1/2-1 inch thick piece of wood and shin checks. In this case, your parnter holding the stick swings it in a kicking motion and the defender checks the kick.

I've found that #2 is the best option. But everyone is different and different training works best for everyone. I'd try a few things out and see what flows best!
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Hey Squirrrelfighter,

For right now I use option one.

But I'm curious as to if there is any way to accelerate the growth of the trebeculi?
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Hey Squirrrelfighter,

For right now I use option one.

But I'm curious as to if there is any way to accelerate the growth of the trebeculi?
Well I have found that while Option 1 is effective, Option 2 causes much more trauma to the shin. And the whole idea of it is, that by causing trauma to the shins the body adapts and adds density to the skin on top of the shin, as well as said trauma deadening the nerves.

My theory on this subject is that induing the most trauma possible, with the most effective recovery time, is the best option. I've found Option 2, followed by 2-3 days were needed in the beginning for the Edemas to decrease in size and for the bruises to heal sufficiently enough for me to continue conditioning. The more trauma you can indue the more quickly the nerves will die and the body will adapt.

My sparring parnter, a practitioner of Northern Shaolin Kung Fu, prefers Option 3. I tested this option while still learning Shotokan Karate using a Kendo Sword and found it lacked a lot of the realistic trauma that comes from checking an actual kick.

All in all. I place them in this order of effectiveness:
1. Checking live kicks.
2. Shin kicking the lower portion of a heavy bag
3. Using a stick/Kendo Sword
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For me right now I can barely feel anything except the contact of the bag on my right-shin.


But I know if I want to use leg-strikes I'll need to endure a hell of a lot more pain than I have felt up to this point.
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For me right now I can barely feel anything except the contact of the bag on my right-shin.


But I know if I want to use leg-strikes I'll need to endure a hell of a lot more pain than I have felt up to this point.
Oh yeah, you just gotta laugh and hop on one leg! Until you mentally recover for the next one.
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It's odd, if I do conditioning my right-shin will not throb.

But if I practice combos, doing a bit of kick-boxing I have to ice the shin for at least 1.5 hours and even then the shin will throb
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