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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-13-2011, 05:31 AM Thread Starter
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Ideal training frequency for SKILL DEVELOPMENT?

Hi dudes.

I currently have zero experience with Muay Thai. I lift weights very often and I mainly train for the sport of weightlifting.

However, I am interested in mastering some effective Muay Thai movements, such as the basic, jab+cross+roundhouse combo.

I am thinking of buying a heavy bag and train at home. How frequent should I train? How frequent should a beginner, intermediate, and advanced train as far as skill development?

I honesty am not looking to be a competitive fighter. I merely want to develop certain combo skills. Like for example, how many times should I do a certain combination on a heavy bag per training session, and how many training sessions per week should I be doing?

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To start out If you have the time work on your combos for 15 minutes/daily.

If you start out throwing for technique only no power behind the strikes you will lay a good foundation to build on.

I'd say buy a timing device set it for 1 minute rounds and give yourself 15 seconds of rest between the rounds and do 5-10 pushups between the rounds.

Do this for a week then I would suggest building a light tap of the bag and contiue with the circuit above.

I may be flamed for this but I believe you should use no wrapping or tape. Work without the tape or wrap and you will be able to solidify your technique quicker and you'll be able to use it on the street.



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For the roundhouse do as such:

if you are throwing a rear leg right kick rotate the lead foot 90 degrees and bring the knee to parallel to the ground and swing through the bag.

Work on this without the bag to begin, you will notice how easy it will be when you transition to the bag.



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15 minutes daily isn't inherently wrong. And if you can recover from lifting AND from daily bagwork/skillwork, then by all means, hit it up every day. But personally, I'd suggest more like three, 30 minute sessions a week. Your oly lifting background should help you out with speed and power development once you get the skills down. But I think the repetition of skillwork is going to catch you by surprise - may only be a silly bodyweight movement, but throwing a jab 100 times (for example) still takes a toll on the muscles, which are going to need their rest. That's why I'd recommend a day or so between sessions, from the beginner standpoint anyway. Or your hands may even just need a rest from the abuse of pounding on the bag.

I say 30 minute sessions because for me, I need that much time to figure things out. If something isn't landing right, then I might spend ten minutes just focusing on that punch or kick. Later on when you really start to unload on the bag, you can cut the time down and into rounds. But I'd say that while you're still so green and trying to sharpen your technique, just take your time and focus on what needs to be improved. If one punch in a combination isn't coming out right, go ahead and work on that punch. Same as lifting, you don't just keep strengthening your strengths, you want and need to bring up your weaknesses.

Honestly, for every person on this forum that trains, you'll probably find a (at least slightly) different approach to bagwork.

Get some wraps and/or bag gloves. Be safe.

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Thanks for the informative posts!

Telling a weightlifter that deep squats are bad for the knees is like telling a kickboxer that footwork is a bad strategy...
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Since you already do weights, don't go for power when your train. The proper mechanics will inherently give you power because you use the weight of your body versus just leg or arm muscles. So focus on mechanics when training, especially given you already do weights. Once your mechanics are perfect (which takes a long time), you can focus on adding power.
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