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***OFFICIAL*** Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman Thread

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#1 ·
Middleweight bout: 185 pounds
Five round fight for the UFC Middleweight Championship

 
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#4 ·
is silva fighting weidman? i reckon weidman has a good chance because he is good at the wrestling and its silva's weakness because chael was good against him with the wrestling but silva is good with striking.....


sorry about that, its all been said - thank god the fight is on soon. i have a question though - is there anyone that gets more excited about fights more than anderson's

coz i cant get my head around that at all, would love to hear the thoughts from ppl who get more excited about other fighters/fights
 
#10 ·
Only because Chris is most likely not going to KO/sub Anderson in the first ala Serra or Werdum. If Chris stops Anderson early it will be the greatest, unless of course Anderson looks slow and old in his next fight, then people will say age finally caught up with him.

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#16 ·
Though everyone says "when Sonnen showed the blueprint on how to beat Silva". .. fact is Silva got put on his back multiple times WAY before Sonnen. In the UFC, Lutter and Hendo for example took Silva down multiple times. Fact is, though it might be the ***** in his great armour, just putting Silva on his back is not the blueprint to beat Silva, Silva still beats them convincingly after. Very few can put Silva on his back who still has the 2nd best Takedown Defense at MW, and even so, putting Silva on his back meant very little until Sonnen did it, and talked his way into making people believe that he is uncrowned Champ. And making it more than it was in both of their fights.

What im trying to say is, does Weidman put Silva on his back? Likely. Does Weidman win a Round by doing so? Likely. Is Silva still going to find a way to finish Weidman regardless? Also likely. Gotta go with Anderson Silva either TKO Round 2 or easy Decision Victory via Leites/Maia fight clowning.
 
#17 ·
My prediction...

Silva looks dangerous, but noticably slower than his Bonner fight, meaning that age has seemingly caught up to him. Chris Weidman doesn't quite manage to dominate the way Chael did, however he still gets the takedowns from Rd 1 up to Rd 4 to avoid Silvas absolute worst punishment. Throughout rounds 1 - 4, Silva lands some deadly combinations, while Weidman lands some devastating combinations of his own, and because Weidman got the takedowns, many people feel that he won the majority of those rds, meaning Silva MUST finish Weidman in the last round (ala Silva/Sonnen 1). Rd 5 comes arounds, Weidman gasses and Silva lands a flurry of punches on Weidman throughout the round, nearly finishing him but Weidman miraculously survives the late onslaught, and in most peoples eyes, to get one of the greatest upsets in MMA History. It has been a war, Joe Rogan is ecstatic, and both fighters congratulate each other on the great bout.

After the commercial, the referee pulls both Silva and Weidman to the center of the cage for the official judges decision. Everyone is the statiums heart is racing as Bruce Buffer is getting ready to announce the winner of this bout.

- Eddie Marcs scores the contest 48 - 47: Silva

- Ricardo Almeida scores the contest 48 - 47: Weidman

- and Cecil Peoples scores the contest 49 - 46 for your winner by Split Decision...

...AND STILL THE UNDESPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, ANDERSON "THE SPIDER" SILVA!!!

The announcement is greeted with a mixture of cheers and boos as most people feel the decision was contraversial and felt Weidman won the bout not to mention the belt. Silvas camp celebrates while Weidmans camp is outraged.

During the press conference, Dana announces that there will be an immediate rematch because of the contraversial nature of the decision. Throughout the coming months, UFC fighters are asked who they thought won, some saying they thought Weidman should've won, others saying Silva deserved the victory.

Despite the immediate rematch, Silva injures himself during training camp, and will be out for another 4 months. Weidman opts to take a fight before than, that fighter being Vitor Belfort. Weidman defeats Vitor Belfort by TKO (punches) in the second rd in his home country of Brazil. In the post fight interview, Chris Weidman calls out Silva saying "This time, I'm ready.". By this time, most MMA Fans are absolutely certain Chris Weidman will end Silvas undefeated reign of terror in the UFC.

5 months later, Silva and Weidman step into the cage once again to settle the score. First rd, Silva wobbles Weidman with a devastating punch. Weidman survives the rd after an early onsaught from Silva. Second rd starts and it's the polar opposite as Weidman takes Silva down within the first ten seconds, and lands many solid combinations on top throughout the rd. Third rd starts annd Weidman attempts to take Silva down. However, after Silva stuffs the TD attempt, Weidman backs away and they feel each other out until halfway through the second rd when Weidman abruptly hurts his knee, rendering Silva the winner by injury default. As Silva avoids defeat yet again, fans and fighters alike question rather the Weidman knee injury was legitimate, or fake because he was afraid of losing a second title shot. Chris Weidman, not long after, tweets pictures of his dislocated knee, and ending all suspicions on him faking the knee injury.

Before they get a third chance to fight each other to end all questions, Silva retires and Weidman wins the vacant middleweight championship against Renaldo Souza.

That's what I see happening...:thumb01:
 
#18 ·
Dont be silly. That'll never happen. What will happen is at 20 seconds into round 3 a tear will appear in the time/space continuum, blending Silva and Weidman together forming a fearsome beast... The Wanderman. This creature will go on to devour the planet and all things on it.

Sig bet?
 
#21 ·
But what does that even matter? Isn't the matchup what matters? What if Okami beat Anderson? Would that be not as big of an upset because Okami is an experienced fighter who has been in the UFC?

The matchup is what is important. And it would be a smaller upset than anyone Silva has fought recently besides Chael the 2nd time.
 
#23 ·
Let me put it this way:

How many people are giving Chris a chance of winning?

And how many people gave Serra a chance of beating GSP?


I understand the term "upset" can be taken in all kinds of ways. I agree that Silva losing to anybody outside of Bones would be an pretty big upset... and pretty upsetting for a lot of us. That's one type of upset. However, Serra beating GSP is what I would call a proper upset. Buster Douglas proportions. Totally incomparable to Weidman beating Silva in my book.
 
#31 ·
I'm not sure. I think he could retire undefeated. Anything can happen though and at some point I think someone will knock him off if he sticks around long enough.
I love the man, but im pretty convinced he will lose before he retires. I would love for him not to of course.

I guess thats why I wouldnt be too surprised. He's 38. Has had a lot of fights. If he makes it past Weidman I think he may well not lose to any other MW for at least 2 years.
 
#34 ·
I'll shorten my response to Weidman hopefuls, there is literally no logical reason to bet against Anderson in this fight. I can't be assed to type the rest.

Sure, bet if you have a gut feeling or believe in the kid that much, but there is no LOGICAL reason to.
 
#35 ·
Except for the whole Chael Sonnen beating him down for 23 minutes thing.

Put a wrestler whose as well versed at jujitsu as Weidman is and Anderson has a problem. Throw in the fact Weidman isn't afraid of him and his chances are good.

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#45 ·
For everybody that says weidman has only had 9 fights.... jon jones had 13 fights before he crushed the title holder and didn't beta anyone that great along the way so this experience talk is a bunch of nonsense imo.
 
#48 ·
I dont see a problem here. Before Jones title fight plenty of us we're saying hes still green. Of course he went on to prove himself very much the real deal. For example, there we're valid questions regards his chin and his ability off his back. The chin question got answered when Bones ate a full right from Bader and didnt flinch at all. He also ate a hard shot from Rashad. Did nothing. His ability off his back is still kind of unknown so theres still some questions there.

Nobody saying Chris is green is suggesting he also wont turn out to be an amazing fighter. There's a good chance he'll turn out to be something very special. But until we see all facets of his game pushed to limits, we wont really know. Theres nothing wrong with this assumption.

Thats the thing about Anderson. We've seen him in all kinds of situation and hes come through. Theres no area we've yet to see him dragged into.
 
#55 ·
it doesn't mean much, people have a shite ton of fights and yet they never even come close to getting a title shot. Do you think travis wiuff would ever be a top 10 ufc lhw? he's had like 80 fights so he has the experience.

It's as simple as skills and confidence that makes the man, rich franklin certainly had more experience and title fights than silva coming into both of their fights. BJ Penn debuted in the UFC.
 
#56 ·
Dude, what are you going on about? All of those fighters are better for their experience, not worse. Travis Wiuff might be shit, but he would have been a lot shittier if he had had 10% of his fights. Same goes for any fighter. Come on now. I cant believe I'm listening to this.

Are you seriously suggesting Chris is better off against Silva with 9 fights then he would have been if he had 20 under his belt? Seriously?? :confused02:
 
#59 ·
Explain to me how you think chris would be better for having more fights and giving anderson more proven holes to exploit instead of having to figure it out during the fight. And the little jon jones holes has in his game has been been seen because of more experience, no one knew how to beat him before the shogun fight.

Then after the machida defense people now said he has troubled with fast in and out fighters for the future, in the rashad fight it was over hand rights and for vitor it was bjj defense. But he won the title before anyone could see any of this.
 
#61 ·
Explain to me how you think chris would be better for having more fights and giving anderson more proven holes to exploit
Because, my upside-down friend, more fights = more experience = the more chance you have closed your holes and become more well rounded.

Come on now. I see you point. I dont agree. You dont agree. Lets say bollocks to this nonsense for now. They'll be plenty to discuss after the fight.

Big bummer for me is that I wont get to see the fight until the following Friday! ARRRrrrrggg.:thumbsdown: I wont be able to witness the immediate aftermath. Im going to have to avoid all MMA media online for almost a week.

I hope you guys enjoy the carnage. I'll be arriving late with my unique blend of measured opinion and festering horseshit. I suspect it'll rumble on a while.
 
#60 ·
Experience isn't everything, but it does count for a lot. It shouldn't even be a debate since it is literally factual information. The more you do something, the easier it becomes to replicate in the future. Anyone that doesn't believe that is just ignorant to the topic at hand.

This doesn't mean Weidman will lose, but it is a positive for Anderson that he is the much more experienced fighter.
 
#67 ·
There are points where you get diminishing returns with training and where with age your lessened athletic abilities are balanced out with all of the training and knowledge you have accumulated. Optimally you want to be where GSP is right now in his career. Anderson is well past his athletic prime but he has managed to still not lose in the UFC yet because his starting point for natural abilities was so much higher than the average fighter.

So these things are balancing out for him it just isn't as detrimental to him as it is to most. Experience is generally overrated in all sports; you really only end up with a handful of years where it can be a huge advantage in most cases. If you have a long career maybe a third of it at most is spent in that time frame.
 
#68 ·
I do agree with most of this. But when comparing someone like Silva to someone with 9 fights, experience definitely counts for something.

But like I have said, I am not saying this is why Chris will lose or that he will lose, but I think there is a wide enough gap in their experience for it to be meaningful.
 
#72 ·
Such a good fight that you really can't count out either guy. On one hand, you have Anderson Silva. Known as the greatest of all time by many. How can you honestly say that you are 100% convinced that he is going to lose? I feel like you'd have to be a hater to be 100% convinced that he's going to be beat by a guy as green in MMA as Weidman.

On the other hand, you have Chris Weidman, a guy with the right style to give Silva problems. Big guy, great wrestling, great BJJ, and with youth on his side. I don't think someone could be 100% convinced that he can't walk away with the UFC middleweight championship when considering his style. Then again, it's also weird to be 100% convinced that he will walk away with it considering he has only had 9 pro MMA fights with his biggest wins being over K1 Maia who is now a welterweight, and Mark Munoz. I get it that he fought Maia on short notice, but still. Both guys have legit excuses for that fight. Mark Munoz.. People like to say he came in out of shape which he probably did, but it's still a win. I'm just not that impressed with that win because I don't think Munoz is as great as some people make him out to be. Watch his fight with Kendall Grove, a guy no longer in the UFC. Munoz was getting wrecked up until Grove's weak chin showed it's face.

That being said, despite Weidman's inexperience, he's still got the style to give Silva problems and that shouldn't be overlooked. If I had to pick a winner, I'd choose Anderson Silva because he's known as the greatest of all time for a reason. I don't see Weidman submitting him and I have a hard time believing he can control him for a decision. Silva has a lot of time to make something happen and he usually does. It's well accepted that this is the best opponent Weidman has ever faced and no one else he has faced even comes close in my opinion.

I still wouldn't be too surprised though if Weidman did pull it off, and that's why I'm not writing him off completely. I'd be a little surprised just because it would mean that Silva has finally lost in the UFC, but it wouldn't be a huge shock to me.
 
#73 ·
Experience is powerful. Young hunger is equally powerful. It's down to the individual to embrace experience/naivety/both, and unleash it's full potential.

Silva is very good at the 'both' part, so who's stronger mentally? Anderson all day IMO, even more so when you consider Weidman's circumstances leading up to this fight.

Forget 'styles make fights', Anderson is proven against all types. Vitor knocking guys out left and right? Silva KO's him in the first. Chael thrashing everyone on the ground? Silva submits him. 9-0 fighter coming off a year out due to injury? Not an attractive bet.
 
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