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UFC 69: NO Hughes - It's GSP vs. Diego!

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#29 ·
I'd rather see Diego vs GSP then Hughes vs. GSP for two reasons!

1. Diego deserves a title shot!
2. I'm not that eager to see Hughes/GSP 3 so soon after thier second fight! I'd rather see Matt face Karo first! This match was promised to us last year and it never happened! Instead we got Hughes/Riggs! I think Karo can do a better job then Riggs!
 
#31 ·
speedythief said:
If true George has his work cut out for him. Thankfully GSP has a tremendous work ethic and he'll customize his training to counter Diego's G&P style.

It will be an explosive match and, if successful, will legitimize GSP as the premier 170 in the world and a deserving champion.
I really dont think he has his work cut out for him at all. This could be just as hard of a fight for him to win as the Penn fight was. I would say he had his work cut out for him if he was fighting Hughes again but not a guy thats 19-0 and knocked out his last opponent in under 2 minutes that has never been knocked out before. Diego is a machine and very well rounded. Definetly not going to be a walk in the park for GSP.
 
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speedythief said:
If true George has his work cut out for him. Thankfully GSP has a tremendous work ethic and he'll customize his training to counter Diego's G&P style.

It will be an explosive match and, if successful, will legitimize GSP as the premier 170 in the world and a deserving champion.

Legitimize GSP? Have you been sleeping under a rock? Anyone who doesn't think GSP has already legitimized himself in the 170lb class is CRAZY. GSP's only loss comes to a lighting fast armbar...other than that he has dominated and defeated the Who's who of 170. How would this fight legitimze GSP?

Diego Sanchez is the one,if any, who needs legitimizing. He has fought ZERO #1 contenders. GSP has fought and beat BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, and Jason Mayhem Miller... Diego Sanchez has never fought any of them.


Now please don't misunderstand this as me saying Diego doesn't deserve the title shot. He is definitely the number 1 contender, but to question GSP's place at the top is pure insanity.

I beleive Diego will be hte one to give GSP a run for his money, but I do not think April is enough time for Diego. Diego is still improving and puttign him vs GSP at this point in his career is giving him his first loss so he can get better at an even faster rate. I'm goin to montreal come April baby!!!
 
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JWangSDC said:
Legitimize GSP? Have you been sleeping under a rock? Anyone who doesn't think GSP has already legitimized himself in the 170lb class is CRAZY. GSP's only loss comes to a lighting fast armbar...other than that he has dominated and defeated the Who's who of 170. How would this fight legitimze GSP?

Diego Sanchez is the one,if any, who needs legitimizing. He has fought ZERO #1 contenders. GSP has fought and beat BJ Penn, Matt Hughes, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, and Jason Mayhem Miller... Diego Sanchez has never fought any of them.


Now please don't misunderstand this as me saying Diego doesn't deserve the title shot. He is definitely the number 1 contender, but to question GSP's place at the top is pure insanity.

I beleive Diego will be hte one to give GSP a run for his money, but I do not think April is enough time for Diego. Diego is still improving and puttign him vs GSP at this point in his career is giving him his first loss so he can get better at an even faster rate. I'm goin to montreal come April baby!!!
Well said. Diego can't hang with GSP.
 
#36 ·
NICK C said:
Well said. Diego can't hang with GSP.
I realize GSP has had the harder road with victories over Penn, Sherk, and Hughes but neither one has years of experience over the other. GSP has fought the better competition, Diego is getting his first taste of the competition at this level but he belongs there. This fight is going to be ridiculous. The more I think about it, I think their styles are going to match up well for a great fight. Diego is going to work well with GSP aggressing with the offense. He can counterpunch and look for the takedown. GSP just has an advantage against anyone peroid. It is GSP's fight to lose but he better be perfect against Diego. Cant wait for the stare down.
 
#37 ·
JWangSDC said:
Diego can't win this fight yet, they should have gave him hughes. Time for Diego to say hello to his first loss. I hope GSP trains as hard as he did for Matt Hughes because Diego is one clever driven fighter.

According to you Diego CANT win this fight, so who cares how hard GSP trains.... right ? :dunno: :D
 
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steveo412 said:
I really dont think he has his work cut out for him at all. This could be just as hard of a fight for him to win as the Penn fight was. I would say he had his work cut out for him if he was fighting Hughes again but not a guy thats 19-0 and knocked out his last opponent in under 2 minutes that has never been knocked out before. Diego is a machine and very well rounded. Definetly not going to be a walk in the park for GSP.


steve o you have way to much faith in diego hes only beat like three second rate fighters, the rest are cans
 
#41 ·
Diego represents an excellent challenge for GSP, I think his skill are similar to that of a young Matt Hughes with a little better submisions at this point.(than Hughes at that point) I think Hughes has earned himself a title shot for what he's done for the UFC over the years. If thats the case then who fights Diego next? I'de like to have seen him fight BJ Penn, but that ain't happening, since BJ is moving to LW. I think he'd get outgased or KO'd by Sanchrz anyways. I think given that he earned his shot, after Hughes' rematch. The only other fighter you could consider would be Sanchez vs. Hughes, now that would be a match up . . . to see who would fight GSP. After the Serra fight. Then the loser faces Josh Burkman.(next in line)
 
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JawShattera said:
steve o you have way to much faith in diego hes only beat like three second rate fighters, the rest are cans
Whats that say on your signature.... Haha. Yah I do have a lot of faith in him, I have already said that I think GSP is going to win this fight. But you cant count out Diego. And I dont beleive in him because of who he has fought, obviously he has not fought the same competition as GSP but watch him fight not who he fights. His skills are pretty obvious and he is definetly going to give GSP and everyone else trouble.
 
#43 ·
Halebop said:
I realize GSP has had the harder road with victories over Penn, Sherk, and Hughes but neither one has years of experience over the other. GSP has fought the better competition, Diego is getting his first taste of the competition at this level but he belongs there. This fight is going to be ridiculous. The more I think about it, I think their styles are going to match up well for a great fight. Diego is going to work well with GSP aggressing with the offense. He can counterpunch and look for the takedown. GSP just has an advantage against anyone peroid. It is GSP's fight to lose but he better be perfect against Diego. Cant wait for the stare down.
Years of exprience don't matter. While Diego has been fighting second rate fighters. GSP has been fighting the best in the world from the get go with the exception of two or three fights in TKO/UCC. The only guy that Diego fought that could be considered world class is Karo and that was a war. Diego couldn't finish him despite the cut lingering and disrupting Karo's vision throughout the fight.
 
#44 ·
NICK C said:
Years of exprience don't matter. While Diego has been fighting second rate fighters. GSP has been fighting the best in the world from the get go with the exception of two or three fights in TKO/UCC. The only guy that Diego fought that could be considered world class is Karo and that was a war. Diego couldn't finish him despite the cut lingering and disrupting Karo's vision throughout the fight.
Man GSP couldnt finish Karo either so you cant really say anything bad about that. Karo is one tough SOB and he definetly looked alot worse after the fight with Diego then he did after GSP. And saying that years of experience dont matter is just stupid. Experience is one of the best things a fighter can have. Diego knows how to train for each opponent perfectly. believe me he will be ready for GSP and it will be a war.
 
#45 ·
Regardless of how great of a fighter GSP is and how much more experience he has had, I'm still going with Diego in this fight if it happens. Nobody is the best, Hughes thought he was and look at what happened to him. Everyone can have a bad fight, you just never know what to expect. Diego can go in there and throw a wild punch and knock GSP on his face. You just never know what will happen. I hope Diego does win just so I can come to this board once again and read what all the people have to say that counted him out yet again.
 
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steveo412 said:
Man GSP couldnt finish Karo either so you cant really say anything bad about that. Karo is one tough SOB and he definetly looked alot worse after the fight with Diego then he did after GSP. And saying that years of experience dont matter is just stupid. Experience is one of the best things a fighter can have. Diego knows how to train for each opponent perfectly. believe me he will be ready for GSP and it will be a war.
Agree with the Karo point. How do you quantify exprience? Is it years, number of fights or quality of opponents. Which of these factors give you the edge. I think being exposed to a higher level of competetion makes you a better fighter. Diego has twice the amount of fights as GSP but 2/3 of them were against cans. Diego is getting KOed in the first round
 
#47 ·
NICK C said:
Agree with the Karo point. How do you quantify exprience? Is it years, number of fights or quality of opponents. Which of these factors give you the edge. I think being exposed to a higher level of competetion makes you a better fighter. Diego has twice the amount of fights as GSP but 2/3 of them were against cans. Diego is getting KOed in the first round
Obviously all of those factors are considered experience and will give you an edge in any fight. And I have already said that GSP has faced harder competition than Diego cause that is pretty obvious. But saying that GSP is going to knock out an excellent fighter that is 19-0, that has never been knocked out. Diego obviously has very much improved his standup since starting in the UFC seeing how he just knocked out Joe Riggs in under 2 minutes and that he has never been KOd before. IMO Joe Riggs sucks but Diego easily finished him. But If you are just saying that GSP is going to finish Diego in the first round just becuase he has fought better fighters in the past is just dumb. I do believe GSP will most likely win this fight, but even a moron could see that Diego has a very good chance in this fight.
 
#48 ·
screenamesuck said:
Regardless of how great of a fighter GSP is and how much more experience he has had, I'm still going with Diego in this fight if it happens. Nobody is the best, Hughes thought he was and look at what happened to him. Everyone can have a bad fight, you just never know what to expect. Diego can go in there and throw a wild punch and knock GSP on his face. You just never know what will happen. I hope Diego does win just so I can come to this board once again and read what all the people have to say that counted him out yet again.
I am a huge GSP fan but I have to agree with you, I like Diego alot in this one and I feel he has a good chance. Diego is very under-rated IMO
 
#50 ·
I can't seem to understand why Diego is such an underdog in this one. GSP has a great history when it comes to who he's fought, he's clearly has fought "Better fighters". But it when it all comes to the basics, a fights a fight this could go either way. Did anyone predict Diego Sanchez running through Riggs like a diesel truck by a hook + running knee to the head? This is going to be GSP's toughest competition yet even if the odds are in his favor. I believe Diego can take out Hughes but since apparently thats not happening, all Diego is doing is skipping up a grade... I personally think it's one fight too early and Diego doesn't seem so enthusiastic about hitting up a title yet. But if there's one person in the WW division that can hang with GSP right now out of all of the others contenders, it's Diego and you can't deny it.
 
#51 ·
Here's the way I see it. GSP is bigger, faster, stronger, and more explosive. He's lighter on his feet, better balanced, and moves better. Striking, no contest, GSP's got the full package of punches, leg kicks, head kicks, spinning back kicks, and knees. Technically very good along with good use of movement, angles, timing, & distance, has a long reach too which he uses to his advantage. Diego has basic to intermediate level boxing skills, no kicks that I've seen, and his use of movement & angles is at a basic level, it's mostly straight in & out. Standing up, Diego would be pounded at will just like Matt Hughes was.

Takedowns, BJ Penn managed to get GSP off his feet once, and didn't get anything in. Matt Hughes was solidly stuffed several times. Sanchez ain't nearly as good as those 2 at takedowns, he ain't getting GSP down with anything other than luck. GSP has gotten takedowns on all the best, including a solid slam on Penn. He'll have little problem taking down Sanchez who was repeatedly dropped to the mat by Parisyan.

On the ground, only Hughes has managed to submit GSP and no one else has gotten him into any real trouble. Diego looked pretty good on the ground against Parisyan, and though Karo has decent submissions it ain't top 3 level and his ability to ground & pound and pass the guard is still a long ways off from GSP, Penn, & Hughes.

In short, I don't see any area where Diego has an advantage over GSP, sure there's always the chance of a lucky shot or an unlucky slip, but frankly that's the only way Diego can win. Barring a miraculous improvement or incredible luck, Diego will get picked apart and schooled just like Frank Trigg was.

screenamesuck said:
Regardless of how great of a fighter GSP is and how much more experience he has had, I'm still going with Diego in this fight if it happens. Nobody is the best, Hughes thought he was and look at what happened to him. Everyone can have a bad fight, you just never know what to expect. Diego can go in there and throw a wild punch and knock GSP on his face. You just never know what will happen.
So basically you've admitted that luck is all Diego has on his side. Luck is always a factor, but when it's the only way to win you're grasping at straws.
 
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