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Dan Hardy vs George St. Pierre? Seriously?

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#1 ·
Anyone else pissed knowing there's a strong possibility that Dan Hardy will headline a PPV? If that match happens, no way in hell I'm buying it.
 
#10 ·
Anytime GSP is fighting imo its worth buying. That being said, i don't like dan hardy but i think it would be worth it to see gsp knock his gayass mohawk off...
Not for red blooded heterosexuals it isnt..I am sorry but if you have been a fan of GSP "MATCHES" post montreal you are either a chick,bi,gay or bi curious..And I dont mean that has an insult its just his matches arent aesthetically pleasing at all..Its one thing to be happy your favourite fighter is scoring Ws..But to go as far as to fork out $$$ to watch him basically lay on his opponent for 5 rounds and call that ENTERTAINING? leads me to believe this adoration has nothing to do with MMAs
 
#3 ·
Good for you, I'm sure Dana White really cares. Lmao, please.

GSP will destroy Hardy though imo. 5 round beating just like Alves and Fitch, unless Hardy crumbles and gets stopped.
 
#6 ·
Who said you have to watch it? Lmao, I'm sure if you didnt watch the fight, no one would care. So, like I said, good for you homeboy.

Props.
 
#7 ·
Hardy is the most deserving at the moment that hasnt already been beaten by GSP. Rumble hasnt even fought any upper B level fighters yet and was way off weight in his last fight. There isnt anyone else that is really close to a shot at the moment. I think GSP will handle Hardy without to much resistance, but its mma and anything can happen. Hardy looked like a beast against Swick and will probably come in a lot more prepared for GSP. Im actually looking forward to this fight. Everyone love GSP and Hardy is a pretty entertaining dude in and out of the cage.
 
#8 ·
I'm actually kind of looking forward to it just to see how bad GSP can make Dan look. Nothing against Dan of course but he has a long night ahead of him come fight time (or perhaps a very short one.) That being said, I don't think this fight really deserves top billing but a decent co-main event or another title defense that night would please me.
 
#11 ·
Oh please. No matter who you put in there against GSP, you'll get the same result. 5 round decision of GSP peckering punches and outwrestling his opponent. You'll get it with Hardy, you'll get it with Swick, you'll get it with Paul Daley (actually that one would probably be a stoppage) and you'll get it with Kampmann.

That said, I hope Hardy pulls it off and I'd love to see him in the main event over all the people I just previously mentioned. He'll hype the fight enough for you to want to watch him get his ass kicked, I guarentee it.

He's got the power to drop GSP, remember this.

And joshua is correct. As of right now, Hardy deserves the shot more than any other fighter GSP hasen't faced yet. Before this fight people were wanting Swick/GSP. Hardy just beat Swick, so how in the blue hell does he not deserve a shot?
 
#12 · (Edited)
And joshua is correct. As of right now, Hardy deserves the shot more than any other fighter GSP hasen't faced yet. Before this fight people were wanting Swick/GSP. Hardy just beat Swick, so how in the blue hell does he not deserve a shot?
How is this any different than paul daley's situation with kampmann? they were both on streaks and beat coontenders who the ufc felt were ripe to challenge GSP..

If johnson beats koscheck will that make him a contender too? cuz like hardy he will be on a 4 fight streak in the ufc with his latest victim being a TUFer (like that should mean something)
 
#22 ·
Again, Anthony Johnson hasen't beaten the levelcompetition that Hardy has in the UFC. Even if Johnson beats Koscheck, he still wouldn't deserve it over Hardy.
How so

markam = fioravanti
swick = Koscheck
Gono = yoshida (these days)
and then you have davis who is a TUFer so afraid of real competition that he specifically asked to fight on all the overseas cards..Which has you know doesnt really have the best of the best..Kevin burns could probably flourish in that environment..

If you hold a torch for hardy then so be it but dont try and make out the fighters he has beaten are head and shoulders above johnson's when they are interchangeable..If johnson beats Kos there really is no differece between the 2
If Alves couldn't do it, no way are we seeing him get 'Serra'd' again. That loss was good for GSP.

I think he'll sub Hardy within 3 rounds.
But bad for MMA unfortunately
 
#24 ·
How so

markam = fioravanti
swick = Koscheck
Gono = yoshida (these days)
and then you have davis who is a TUFer so afraid of real competition that he specifically asked to fight on all the overseas cards..Which has you know doesnt really have the best of the best..Kevin burns could probably flourish in that environment..

If you hold a torch for hardy then so be it but dont try and make out the fighters he has beaten are head and shoulders above johnson's when they are interchangeable..If johnson beats Kos there really is no differece between the 2
Thats if he beats Koschek. Your comparing what Hardy has done to what Johnson might do. It doesnt hold much weight at the moment. Also, as far as Alves having much better stand up then Hardy, I would have to disagree with that. Alves has a ton of power in his hands but isnt particularly fast or accurate, he was getting outstruck by Karo and Derrick Noble until he caught both of them. GSP completely outstruck him and even dropped him. Hardy has faced much better strikers then Alves has in Swick and Davis and he has outstruck them. Also, Hardy is undeafeated in the UFC, Johnson has two losses regardless of the circumstances surrounding those losses, they are still losses.
 
#14 ·
I don't see that happening. Although I don't like it, GSP is an amazing wrestler and no one can defend against him. Ever since he beat Matt Serra for the title, he doesn't really even attempt to do stand up. It's just take down after take down for 5 rounds straight. I don't like Hardy but he is definitely more entertaining than GSP.
 
#21 ·
If Alves couldn't do it, no way are we seeing him get 'Serra'd' again. That loss was good for GSP.

I think he'll sub Hardy within 3 rounds.
 
#19 ·
Hardy hits harder than Matt Serra and has better stand-up as well. But I'm not using Matt Serra has an excuse as to why Hardy could beat GSP. I know Serra was a fluke. Of course, anything can happen in MMA.

As far as GSP's stand-up being weak, like dude said, it's not weak, just not one of his strong points and isn't world class by any stretch of the imagination. The guy is just so damn athletic and intelligent that he can't be bad or weak in any area of MMA.
 
#23 ·
Yes, there is a difference. Markham is better than Luigi and Johnson hasen't beaten Koscheck yet.

Dude, Marcus Davis is more than just a TUFer. If you've seen my other posts you know that I do not like Marcus Davis at all but he's got some good stand-up skills. You can't ignore the guy on Hardy's UFC resume. Beating Markham, Swick, Gono, and Davis is more impressive then Yoshida, Luigi (by far) and Koscheck..and he hasen't even beat Koscheck.

I didn't try, I just did.
 
#28 ·
That was me sister Jones.

And besides, it's not even back peddling. I strictly said if Johnson beat Koscheck, it still doesn't hold up to Hardy has beaten in the UFC. If Johnson doesn't beat Koscheck, he goes back down the ladder. It's pretty straight forward, not necessarily back peddling.
 
#30 ·
ill bet my left nut if rumble is impressive VS kos he will get the shot instead of hardy.

I think Kos is a better fighter then anybody Hardy has faced aswell, so its a moot point
 
#31 ·
Hardy deserves it so let him have it. Sadly for him his ground game isn't good enough and he'll get subbed around middle of round 2 after eating a boatload of punches, elbows and knees on ground first.

Both Penn and Alves got great striking but neither was able to use it against GSP. Both also have better TDD than Hardy and had no chance to prevent the takedowns from GSP. Also Im not even that convinced that Hardy's striking is as versatile as GSP's either, we might very well see him getting tagged a few times standing before he gets taken down.
 
#39 ·
That fight and its resulting title fight represents everything that's wrong with the UFC. FOR GOD SAKE'S START RANKING YOUR FIGHTERS! Swick had a UFC record of 13 - 0 going into that fight. Hardy had a UFC record of 3 - 0. IMHO this matchup was an insult to Swick (I know that sounds ridiculous in hindsight - but we say it all the time - "Anything can happen in a fight" well, "anything" did happen this time - Hardy won). To say that whoever won that fight was deserving of a title shot is just dumb. The UFC constantly shoots itself in the foot by doing this. The same thing happened when they matched up Huerta vs. Kenflo - Huerta lost and we ended up with a challenger who never should have had a shot at BJ. Way to go guys....way to go. Even though he lost - I'd still rather see Mike Swick vs. GSP than Hardy vs. GSP. Now that can't happen.
 
#40 ·
Joe Silva needs to get fired. I could done a better job and would give what the fans want. But since he is Dana's massage partner It won't happen.

Vera vs. Couture? Velasquez vs. Rothwell? C'mon Joey boy... Smarten the hell up.

Swick should have gotten his shot 6 months ago... He was 4-0 or 5-0 at WW and had beaten Davis more decisively than Hardy did.
 
#42 ·
I feel Swick definitely should have gotten his title shot much earlier. Swick had 2 KOs, 2 Decisions(one being unanimous over Marcus Davis)going into the hardy fight. Hardy only had 2 matches, one KO over a guy who only had 1 ufc match before that one, and a SPLIT decision over Marcus Davis. Shit doesn't make any sense.
 
#44 · (Edited)
Happy to see some defence of Hardy :O

The guy is for real, he's not new to the sport and he's beaten everyone the UFC has put infront of them, and the fights aint been easy.

He deserves the shot and I reckon it'll be an exciting fight. I'm a Brit so I'll be backing Hardy but as far as actual expectations? Well I won't be putting money on it.

EDIT - Also for everyone screaming out for Johnson vs GSP, I'd rather see Johnson vs Daley first if Johnson wins at 106. Could pretty much guarantee a highlight reel KO in that fight.
 
#45 ·
Happy to see some defence of Hardy :O

The guy is for real, he's not new to the sport and he's beaten everyone the UFC has put infront of them, and the fights aint been easy.

He deserves the shot and I reckon it'll be an exciting fight. I'm a Brit so I'll be backing Hardy but as far as actual expectations? Well I won't be putting money on it.
Yes, he's beaten everyone the UFC has put in front of him, but in every division, there should be one definitive contender. The absolute second best fighter and rightful number one contender, which I'm not sure Dan Hardy is. Not just yet, anyway. Could he make it passed men like Fitch and Alves? Could he make it passed up and comers like Johnson? If not, then how can he be expected to have a hope in hell of making it passed GSP? Number one contention should imply that you have more than a puncher's chance, or that your win will be considered more than a fluke were it to happen. I respect Dan Hardy, and I'm always excited to see him fight, but I don't feel he's earned the reputation that a number one contender need have. Not just yet.
 
#49 ·
Yeah I think Dan Hardy is a joke. Swick looked terrible last night, and he is maybe the worst of the AKA guys and Hardy still struggled.

Maybe let Hardy beat ANY top WW before he gets murdered by GSP?


I'm glad to see GSP getting a weak opponent actually, I can't wait for him to wreck Hardy with his dynamic striking, then pound him out for a round 2 stoppage.
 
#52 ·
I would love to see GSP in a "No Takedowns" match. I know it's not possible, unless both him and his opponent make an agreement before the match, but it would be interesting to see his stand up truly tested without his opponents constantly expecting to be taken down. I understand takedowns are part of MMA, I personally love a good takedown, but GSP abuses them like a red-headed step child just because he can do it at will.
 
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