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fighting a giant...need help

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#1 ·
i know this isnt really mma related but i need to know how to fight a big guy on the street...i'd say hes about 6'4 maybe 250....i'm lik 5'7 and 165 lol...this guy wont let up and i'm thinking i might get dragged into something...

i've been doing mma for a few months now and in sparring sessions when i spar with bigger guys i always have the problem of not committing to the punch when i get in close because they're soo much bigger than me...i have pretty fast hands and ok defense but if i get hounded by this guy on the street i dont know how i'd deal with it...my sensai says to just ignore him but its no that easy

if anyone can give me any pointers so that i dont get reamed it'd be great lol
 
#27 ·
kishiro said:
you are a fool to think ahead in a fight, such as giving me a reach around... if you ever mixed it up you know in a fight plans rarely happen the way you want it.

good for you your a cop so you have seen what happends in the street, but that is only when you are called. i have lived in some bad spots in my life, so i have seen what happends before your called, i seen what happends when the witness "didn't see anything", i seen what happends when the witness stories don't match. and you as a cop, i hear you guys always *****ing about these problems.

as i said it is rare to get a one on one fight, but if it happends go with what you know. or what ever is working at that time.

few things i street fights i have learned in my life,#1 relax & revert to your training, #2 no police are there when it is going down (they tend to come after), #3 there is no fair street fight

i have seen fights happen and they are down the block watching, waiting for backup, the adverage time for back up to arrive is 8-12min. most fights don't last that long......
the average time for back up to arrive is far less then 8 - 12 minutes for one especially if it is a violent disturbance I dont need to call for back up because multiple units have already been dispatched so the longest I would have to wait to go in would probably be less then a minute because several units are being dispatched.

Secound of all I could care less what you learned in the streets because I have seen far worse in the streets of Afghanistan. Dont come with the im from a ruff part of town because the ruffest part of your town isnt any where near as bad as half of the fights attacks that I managed to live through.

You have to anticipate before you act not doing so would be fool hardy. Even pro fighters do that they dont just go in the ring and fight they watch video of their opponent and based on that they develop a strategy to combat their opponent.

Even Bas Rutten in his self defense video teaches the same things I have told you. Ill take Bas' opinion over yours since his thoery has been battle tested time and again in various bar fights.
 
#28 ·
Wow... I always find it funny how some of the more knowledgeable members of this forum (actually any of the fora I frequent) end up in these online "*****-waving" contests. The funniest thing about all of this is that you both agree on key parts in your posts. That is genuinely entertaining from my perspective.

Oh... To the OP: The general consensus is to avoid this dude at all costs. If a fight does start, don't treat it like an organized "match" because it isn't. Treat it like your health and well-being is on the line because it will be. Do what you can to protect yourself and get the hell out of dodge when you can.

Good luck.
 
#29 ·
mrmyz said:
Im a cop and I have seen what happens from one on one fight in the street. One time these two kids were going at it one was winning and the other ones freinds gave him a concusion from a kick to the head while he was focusing on another opponent. In the real world you have to try and finish as quickly as possible. Im a martial artist but im also a soldier and I think like a soldier. Put me in a triangle in a real life situation and I will reach around grab your nuts and strat crushing them with my hand and we will see how long you hold that submition ...
What about a standing arm triangle? :laugh:
 
#30 ·
Onganju said:
Wow... I always find it funny how some of the more knowledgeable members of this forum (actually any of the fora I frequent) end up in these online "*****-waving" contests. The funniest thing about all of this is that you both agree on key parts in your posts. That is genuinely entertaining from my perspective.

Oh... To the OP: The general consensus is to avoid this dude at all costs. If a fight does start, don't treat it like an organized "match" because it isn't. Treat it like your health and well-being is on the line because it will be. Do what you can to protect yourself and get the hell out of dodge when you can.

Good luck.
your right:thumbsup:
 
#32 ·
I have to disagree with the person who said to grapple with him. He is bigger then you and will not have to use as much technique due to the size difference.

If you have been grappling for a LONG time then maybe or if you guys are in it and you see he sucks then choke him out.

My advice, first get it out of your head that you are going to fight with him. That way you will stop attracting situations with him to you.

Second, work on your hands and boxing a lot. If this guy is a bully (which he might be) a good cross to the face will definitely shake him up and make him rethink the whole situation. Stick and move.

Also, if you are training and this guy is someone of the street the skill difference will be apparent very fast as will the conditioning. The longer the fight goes on the more it is to your advantage.

Right now just train train train.... as your confidence builds less and less of these people will appear until none at all.
 
#33 ·
mrmyz said:
this is a street fight not a competition so dont treat it like one fight dirty. thumb to eyes work nice, groin shots wont really work because every one expects them.

and for all of you people suggesting him to grapple ... grappeling on the street is by far the stupidist thing any one can do and thats coming from a grappeler. your assuming that no one is going to jump in which is something you just cant risk. In the real world its not a 1 on 1 fight you have to worry about other people coming in.

Also when your on the ground every one is not going to fight the way a grappeler fights and unless your used to fighting people that dont know how to grapple you might actually be at a disadvantage because your limiting yourself. Like I said fight dirty. WHats going to happen when you put him in a submition. You put him in an arm bar and you assume he gives up and you win but he could end up trying to fight again. Your only real option grappeling wise is a choke because you dont want to be liable for anything.

If I were you and I had to fight a much bigger opponent. I would fight dirty because in all honesty martial arts are dirty. All this sport application takes away from the real purpose of it which isnt to compete but to survive. Dont fight him like an mma fighter because this isnt a sport. Giving advice as if it were a sport is stupid.

Thats why all of these boxers go out and try to fight on the street and get their asses kicked because some one just takes them to the ground kicks or pulls some shit that they dont know and they get pissed because they werent playing by their rules.


In a street fight you know how I escape a pin? **** bridge and roll finger to the eye and roll. If I ever get stuck in a bad position I will shove my thumb in some ones eye on the street. I will pull your hair out, I will bite, I will punch you in th throat and attack vitals.

Id love for some of the people that say oh thats not fighting fair to tell that to the people who created these martial arts. Tell that to Jiu Jitzu practioners from feudal japan who created the art that and they will laugh in your face. Martial arts were made to fight not for sport. They were made to fight wars and to survive. If this punk wants to fight then dont fight him like your playing a game fight him like your trying to survive
:thumbsup: Great advice. It is a fight, not a competition. Do what you have to do to win.
 
#36 ·
get 1 or 2 of your buddies(make sure they can fight) together for backup and go kick his ass. don't let him start the fight with you because then he'll have the advantage. surprise the dude when he's not ready and beat the shit out of him. he'll be scared shitless and won't bother you again after that.
 
#37 ·
Your hardest kick to the nuts, chances are he thinks he's gonna have an easy time kicking your ass and will be too cocky to think your gonna kick him in the nuts. Then a knee to the face, and when he drops to the floor a kick to the face or ribs depending how much you hate him.

Then throw him a bit of smack talk and walk away :D

Id always go for a kick to the nuts at a medium to short range, maybe when he gets in your face or whatever. Or a knee to the nuts, knee to head and a few kicks when he's on the ground.
 
#38 ·
Hey try my advice. I have fought bigger guys all my life. However, during Highschool wrestling came really easy to me and becasue i wieght like 100 pounds and was full of energy. However i have grown since grade nine. The big guy is going to try and knock you out. He isnt going to try and get you ina submission becasue its not a mma fight. its a street fight. Depending on how your wrestling is your could have a big advantage.
What i would do depending on how i feel squaring off. I would throw a few jabs but NOT GET IN CLOSE wait for him to start throwing back. BUT BE ALERT.. move around and once you have him felt out fake one and he will put his arms up and BAM go for his legs and he will fall. Now your on top and you want to stay on top BUT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. Your in a street fight and they dont last long. You MUST not burn all your energy.
 
#39 ·
GroundAndPound said:
get 1 or 2 of your buddies(make sure they can fight) together for backup and go kick his ass. don't let him start the fight with you because then he'll have the advantage. surprise the dude when he's not ready and beat the shit out of him. he'll be scared shitless and won't bother you again after that.
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

If you want to be known as a bully yourself and become what your trying to avoid this is great advice.. If you want to be the bigger person and have more respect for yourself and get more respect from others listen to the adive that tells you to avoid the fight but be prepared if and when it does happen.
 
#40 ·
hey man if your a lot smaller also remeber that groin kicks are a good way to take a big mother f@cker down or at least destract him. I also am 145lb. and im fighting a big 250lb guy this summer but im not worryied becuase he is fat and also slow. those should be your advantages, but if hes buff it will be tougher for you.
I do suggest though that you watch some of royce gracies old fights when ufc first came out he fought guys that were much bigger than him all the time and he wipped the shit out of them.
 
#41 ·
traf_quake said:
i know this isnt really mma related but i need to know how to fight a big guy on the street...i'd say hes about 6'4 maybe 250....i'm lik 5'7 and 165 lol...this guy wont let up and i'm thinking i might get dragged into something...

i've been doing mma for a few months now and in sparring sessions when i spar with bigger guys i always have the problem of not committing to the punch when i get in close because they're soo much bigger than me...i have pretty fast hands and ok defense but if i get hounded by this guy on the street i dont know how i'd deal with it...my sensai says to just ignore him but its no that easy

if anyone can give me any pointers so that i dont get reamed it'd be great lol
Bring a gun, he'll squirm like a little girl.
 
#42 ·
Micheal Bolton said:
Bring a gun, he'll squirm like a little girl.
And go to jail.. Apperently This site is attracting some idiots in my absence. Man the real Michael Bolton would be disappointed in an apperent fanboy/girl saying idiotic things like that. :thumbsdown:
 
#43 ·
traf_quake said:
i know this isnt really mma related but i need to know how to fight a big guy on the street...i'd say hes about 6'4 maybe 250....i'm lik 5'7 and 165 lol...this guy wont let up and i'm thinking i might get dragged into something...

i've been doing mma for a few months now and in sparring sessions when i spar with bigger guys i always have the problem of not committing to the punch when i get in close because they're soo much bigger than me...i have pretty fast hands and ok defense but if i get hounded by this guy on the street i dont know how i'd deal with it...my sensai says to just ignore him but its no that easy

if anyone can give me any pointers so that i dont get reamed it'd be great lol
John Matua put it best: "A little guy can choke you out, break you arm or kick you in the head. There are only so many big guy moves."

Try and hit him harder because he's big. Get inside and just roll with him, but the best standing option is a quick elbow. With any luck, you cut him. Guys usually stop at the site of their own blood.

Still. Don't fight unless you have to.
 
#44 ·
traf_quake said:
does anyone know any mma fights that could be useful to me??? i 've seen the cro cop vs. bob sapp one...but are they're any others in my situation
I believe that I have some answers to your questions that others have not given you, but before I do, would you please answer my questions about this:
1.The police say that all anti-social acts require motive and opportunity.
My question:What is this "big guy's" motive for bothering you? Is there anyway that you could remove the problem at the source by removing his motivation? Do you owe him money? Are you and him competing for the affections of the same female? The same job? What is going on that this guy,as you say, won't quit?
2. Ditto opportunity: What is going on that you cannot avoid this dude? If it's at work, hostile workplace is a bad lawsuit your supervisors cannot ignore.Take your boss aside, aquaint with a list of dates and times when this dude has done his thing.If that doesn't end it,see a lawyer.Something will happen then, believe me:a multi-million dollar hostile workplace pop is a real ouch! no matter how deep your company's pockets are.
If it's at school: talk to the dean or the principal.
Same as the above.If it's on the streets on the way to work or to school, take out a restraining order: let him try breaking bad with a judge or breaking bad with the cops!
Respond to these questions and I'll give you a couple of pointers that the others hven't mentioned, fighting technique wise.
 
#46 ·
The Don said:
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

If you want to be known as a bully yourself and become what your trying to avoid this is great advice.. If you want to be the bigger person and have more respect for yourself and get more respect from others listen to the adive that tells you to avoid the fight but be prepared if and when it does happen.
Thats some good advice right there, i know a fair bit of alot of fighting styles mainly Judo but people dont really respect me because i dont go around looking for fights i avoid them, if someone trys to bully and you dont want to fight dont saying anything back but the main thing is dont be scared or worse dont act scared.

And Michael Bolton shutup why would you bring a gun to a street fight? you are a typical example of an idiot and even dumber for expecting to shoot someone and get away with it why would you want to shoot someone anyway?
 
#47 ·
i like usual would agree with Judokas, but to a point this time....
i will walk from the talk of a fight, but you touch me.... i will lapel drag you right into my knee.
but the confidence and if they see you fear them not, makes a big diffrence. most will have nothing to do with you.
 
#48 ·
i agree with alot of these guys. Ive done some martial arts and MMA and the first thing you need to learn is to avoid the fight as much as possible. Talk to him and try and work it out. Even though i do some sanctioned fights, i think street fighting is so stupid. So try and work it out.

As far for advice, when your in a street fight its hard to plan anything. Your emotions and adrenaline are going crazy and most of the time you dont even know what your doing. Your training will come into play and help you out though so dont worry.

If the fight does happen and you put up a descent fight but still lose to a guy that much bigger than you. you will gain alot of respect. But try to avoid it at all costs
 
#49 ·
kishiro said:
i like usual would agree with Judokas, but to a point this time....
i will walk from the talk of a fight, but you touch me.... i will lapel drag you right into my knee.
but the confidence and if they see you fear them not, makes a big diffrence. most will have nothing to do with you.
If he touches you then you smash him its hes fault but what i meant to say was that if he or she is trying to drag the other person into a fight i dont talk back and do nothing if they push me but if its more than a mere push i wont walk away but i am a held back person although i love MMA but if someone pushes(and tries to start something with you) and you hit them theres no problem with that, i just wont do that straight away.
 
#51 ·
I don't even believe the OP is ever on the board any more. Oh well...
 
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