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Really confused On Judging

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#1 ·
Ok I was watching the fight with a friend, I we both did score the third round for Chucks team but the first two rounds we gave to Tito's hands down.

anybody as confused as I was:confused02:
 
#19 ·
Aren't the fights on the show considered exhibition matches? If so I could see that being the case. The judges just call it a draw when its close where as if it was a regular match they would of picked a winner.
 
#7 ·
I actually agreed with the judges and had it first round to Hammortree, second and third round to Tavares. Very close fight though, wouldn't of been shocked at it going Hammors way at all.
 
#9 ·
I pretty much had the fight scored the same way (1 & 2 to Hammortree), but it was uninspiring enough that you could have flipped a coin and gotten as good a result. As everyone always says...don't leave it in the hands of the judges as they are not going to give you the result you want/expect a large portion of the time. You want to win fights...then go out and WIN them.

Overall...the fight sucked. Action? Saw very little. They both looked pretty gassed from the very start of the
2nd round to me. You could just about count the total number of strikes thrown on two sets of fingers. Which is also sort of funny imo...before these fights the dudes are always talking so much smak about "man...I can't wait to just put my gloves on his face blah blah blah"...but when the fight starts there just wasn't much of it to be found.

That fight became (for me anyway) nothing but glove tap, glove tap, glove tap, take down, roll around, lay and pray. Neither of them ever really took a shot. And before anyone says it...yeah...I know these guys are not the polished fighters that they may become, but if you are gonna talk the talk then back it up.

And Tito whining about "man...what about the take down? What about getting side control?". Exactly Tito...what about it? Yes, a take down is worth points. Being able to move to side control? Maybe. But what did he do with it? Zip. Nada. Got the mount. What did he do with it? Zip. Nada.
 
#10 ·
Strange, I scored all three rounds for Chuck's team. A little bit of laying and landing nothing special doesn't negate clean punches and legs kicks, especially when the guy on the bottom is threatening with submissions all the time. All I remember is Tito's guy landing a good elbow and losing his control afterwards. Then he got into mount and lost it without landing a clean hit. The rest was all Chuck's guy threatening with submissions and landing stiff jabs and left and right hooks.
 
#12 ·
In my opinion, while Hammortree was clearly the superior wrestler, he failed miserably when it came to offense on the ground. Outside of the takedowns, I didn't see many actual offensive moves. His punches and elbows rarely made contact with Tavarez. I actually at times felt that tavarez was landing more punches from the dominated position.
 
#13 ·
The first 2 rounds really could have went any number of ways. You could argue that either fighter won either round. Hammortree had positional control but Tavares usually had control of Hammortree's arms so no damage was being done. Tavares landed the better of the strikes and had some submission attempts while Hammortree just had positioning and a couple ground and pound strikes. I am glad they went to a 3rd round.

Tavares clearly won the 3rd round imo, Hammortree did nothing dangerous.
 
#14 ·
I actually thought the judging wasn't that bad. I had the first round for Hammortree and the second and third for Tavarez.

Whichever way it would have went I thought it was a good fight and I was hoping Tavarez would pull it out. I think he showed more control in the fight even from the bottom position. Hammortree really wasn't landing anything that was causing damage. Tavarez was trying to land better strikes and was trying to go for subs.
 
#16 ·
I thought the first round was close, Tavares managed a decent throw and managed to take Hammortrees back multiple times early on with a weak attempt at a rear naked choke while toward the middle of the round, Hammortree ended up on on the top position and was laying in Tavares' guard mostly without too much offense. The second round was fairly boring with Hammortree getting top position and nearly laying in his guard for the majority of the bout. That fight should have been stood up in the second in my opinion. Tavares had the kimura attempt from the bottom, but he wasn't getting anywhere with it so i think a stand up would have been justified.

So after the second round, I scored it a draw. I'm not sure how you'd score the third round. Hammortree had the mount position but was bucked off almost immediately after.
 
#17 ·
I thought Tavares narrowly won the first, Hammortree took the second and Tavares took the third. Hard fight to score though so I can't really call it bad judging. Either guy could have taken it.
 
#18 ·
Tavares one the first due to that slam (judo?) very close round though. 2nd i thought Tavares had him controlled from the bottom pretty well (i hate the judges who think "hey hes on top...must be winning")

3rd was by far a Tavares round, not sure why anyone would think other wise.
 
#20 ·
I thought the first round could have gone either way. At least Hammortree did more in that round. Other than that Tavares was landing more strikes standing up and actually looked like he was doing something in the second round. I would have thought Hammortree was alseep after he pushed Tavares up to the cage at the end of the fight. That is what won it. Tavares threw a lot of "strikes" to the head when Hammortree was pussing him against the cage and Hammortree litterally did nothing. Maybe pulled on a leg here and there but did not do it hard enough to see.
 
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