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MMA + smokers ?

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#1 ·
After watching an episode of TUF and seeing Jeffrey Lentz smokes makes me wonder are there any other fighters out there or even if you just train MMA as a hobbie that smoke?

People on the show are saying that they're surprised about his cardio for a smoker & I kind of agree.

Being a smoker myself and having my first ever mma training session, it felt like my lungs were gonna give out on me.
Is it because Im unfit or its just the ciggs?
 
#2 ·
Obviously I do not know you personally and can't speak to your conditioning, but it may be a combination of both. No one would argue that smoking doesn't harm your cardio and lung capacity and I am sure any coach would pressure their fighter to quit smoking (as well as any doctor, beyond fighting reasons). With that said I think it is safe to say the Lentz is more of an exception than he is the rule.

Still, I am sure intense cardio training can combat some of the detrimental cardio-effects of smoking.
 
#31 ·
Obviously I do not know you personally and can't speak to your conditioning, but it may be a combination of both. No one would argue that smoking doesn't harm your cardio and lung capacity and I am sure any coach would pressure their fighter to quit smoking (as well as any doctor, beyond fighting reasons). With that said I think it is safe to say the Lentz is more of an exception than he is the rule.

Still, I am sure intense cardio training can combat some of the detrimental cardio-effects of smoking.
Lol i actually have some hardcore weed smoker friends. (First time i used hardcore and weed in the same sentence)... that smoke like couple times a day every day AND they will argue to death that smoking weed has expanded their lungs thus have improved their endurance by being able to carry more oxygen :sarcastic12:

Stoners will be stoners :)
 
#6 ·
smoking cigs and being a "professional" athlete.... lol.

everybody i meet who smokes and plays sports says they have great endurance... not realizing it would be so much greater if they didnt smoke.


stick to weed. once in a while.
 
#8 ·
Frank Shamrock smoked his first couple years in Pancrease, he said that Lucky Strike used to sponsor fighters and they got free smokes.
 
#14 ·
Marijuana does not kill brain cells. There is only one significant study that came to that conclusion (R G Heath in the 70's), and his study was criticized for using only four monkeys, experimental bias, poor methodology, misdiagnosis of the brain damage itself, and then there's the fact that no other study has been able to replicate his results anyway since then.

That whole topic is a myth, it doesn't kill brain cells.
 
#16 ·
Like many drugs it does get stored in some of the body's tissues temporarily, but you're woefully misinformed if you think that this means a chronic smoker is going to suddenly get all high when he damages a joint. That's ******* ridiculous. Stop watching the PSA's on TV and do some actual research.
 
#18 ·
Some of these effects are pretty much nonexistent, the rest are very minor, and they go away quickly. There are of course upsides that might justify these annoyances to some people. I'm going to assume you haven't really used this substance much if you think these are giant issues, for most users they are not.

It's not like weed turns you into a half-blind draughted skinpicker with heart problems and an inability to move.
 
#26 ·
Only the ignorant use the simple existence of a law as a justification for condemning a thing. Slavery was legal at one time, does that mean it was right? In many states homosexuality was illegal until just a few years ago, women couldn't vote, it was illegal for a woman to refuse sex to her husband, the military code of justice still demands a court martial for the crime of sodomy (gay sex, by their definition), the list goes on. There are countless examples of unjust laws that have been struck down because society WOKE UP.

The "reason" marijuana is illegal has nothing to do with health or social problems, it's all politics. Do some damn research.
 
#32 · (Edited)
Most people dont understand how much smoke you inhale with a cig and how much you inhale from a hit. Lets see well a cig is a roll full of tobacco and you inhale how many times during the whole time and blow out how much smoke? Where as 1 hit from a piece of glass is enough and its only a small tube of smoke.
Thats really not enough to be damaging to your lungs. And only if you smoke everyday without giving your lungs a little bit of time to heal every once in a while then you'll be fine.

EDIT:"Fortunately, even cases of life-long or otherwise long term smokers, human lung tissue begins the process of healing itself when smoking is ceased."

This mostly applys to tobacco since it REALLY damages the lungs but its the same with weed and even the long-term effects on your memory after smoking for a while stop as soon as the weeds completely out of your system, (30+ days.)

There really are no downsides to smoking once or twice or even 3 times a week so long as you can control it, and everyonce in a while take a break.
 
#38 ·
It is in fact legal, at the state level, for many people. Yes, it is technically still illegal federally but Obama has pretty much nullified raids on state-licensed distributors and patients, which means that functionally it's about as illegal as a prescribed painkiller. Nick Diaz, for example, is never going to face legal action for his medical use as long as he stays in states which allow it.

Since you claim to be in California (which has the most medical marijuana prescriptions of any state I believe, and was nearly just decriminalized completely) I'm surprised you don't understand this.

Oh and lastly, I pride myself in having my own moral sense. I don't agree with every law and I don't consider it ok to do everything that isn't explicitly illegal. I think many people feel the same, because laws get broken frequently. In a democracy laws exist to serve the people, not the other way around, and that's why they change so often.
 
#39 ·
Yeah, but California has started cracking down on those dispenseries cause the only people who go to them are druggies. Personally, Diaz would probably get a slap on the wrist if he gets caught with weed. Yes, it is a screwed up system but the fact of the matter is the DEA will go after someone who is involved in a drug ring!:thumbsdown:
 
#40 ·
Yeah, but California has started cracking down on those dispenseries cause the only people who go to them are druggies.
They are cracking down on dispensaries that sell to non-medical users. So? They would crack down on a store that sold liquor to minors and a doctor that wrote prescriptions for people who don't need them, as well.

Personally, Diaz would probably get a slap on the wrist if he gets caught with weed. Yes, it is a screwed up system but the fact of the matter is the DEA will go after someone who is involved in a drug ring!:thumbsdown:
So you're saying if the california police caught Diaz with weed, he would be punished? Sorry, not if he was within his medical limit. He'd have to be caught by federal authorities and even then they in all likelihood would not go after him as long as he was within California and wasn't carrying more than permitted. I spend a lot of time in Cali by the way, so I'm not oblivious to the situation there.


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