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Condit 'guarantees to dominate' Hardy

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#1 ·
http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/48320.html

Carlos Condit has 'guaranteed to dominate' Dan Hardy at UFC 120, insisting he will make the Briton feel 'uncomfortable' on home turf.

Speaking in an interview with ESPN, Condit showed plenty of respect for Hardy, explaining that The Outlaw's ability was what initially attracted him to the fight. The American acknowledges that his opponent has 'good jiu-jitsu', but he expects to control the fight wherever it goes at London's O2 Arena.

Condit has won his last two fights, against Jake Ellenberger and Rory MacDonald, and he is desperate to earn a crack at the UFC welterweight belt. Hardy is the next step on that path, and the former WEC welterweight champion is confident.

"I guarantee I'll dominate it," Condit told ESPN. "I'm definitely not saying he's not well-rounded; from what I've seen he's got pretty good jiu-jitsu.

"But I'm better on the ground, and we'll find out who's better on the feet. I try to inflict as much damage as possible, at all costs. My job is to make him feel uncomfortable, make him panic, no matter what. I'll be pressing him, whether I'm on my feet or whether he's on his back."

Condit is trained by Greg Jackson, the same coach that drew out the gameplan for Georges St-Pierre to stifle Hardy at UFC 111. Asked if he would follow the blueprint by taking Hardy to the mat at UFC 120, Condit would not rule out the possibility.

"I'm not going to give away too much of my gameplan but I definitely feel I have an advantage on the ground. That won't surprise anybody for me to say that. But we'll see where it goes."
Should be a good fight but i dont see Condit beating Hardy in London, i just think Hardy will have too much and if he rocks him early on then Hardy win will be the only outcome.
 
#3 ·
Its gonna be a good fight, this.

I *want* Hardy to win, but who knows. Carlos is pretty shit hot also.

I will say this: using terms like "panic" when talking about Hardy? I dunno about that. If there's one thing we can attribute to Hardy, is that mentally hes pretty damn solid. I'm not sure that pressuring Dan will do Carlos any favours. Its all very well trying to get up from under GSP or Fitch, but the rest of the division have nowhere near the skills those two do.

Whatever. I love both these guys. I will be very surprised if this is anything other than full on pain.
 
#16 ·
Its gonna be a good fight, this.

I *want* Hardy to win, but who knows. Carlos is pretty shit hot also.

I will say this: using terms like "panic" when talking about Hardy? I dunno about that. If there's one thing we can attribute to Hardy, is that mentally hes pretty damn solid. I'm not sure that pressuring Dan will do Carlos any favours. Its all very well trying to get up from under GSP or Fitch, but the rest of the division have nowhere near the skills those two do.

Whatever. I love both these guys. I will be very surprised if this is anything other than full on pain.
I was thinking the same thing. If Hardy didn't panic with GSP wrenching his arm in an armbar, he won't panic if Condit gets in his face or puts him on the ground.
 
#4 ·
I like Condit's style. He takes the fight to his opponent wherever it goes even if he's on his back. He's probably one of the most aggressive fighters in the UFC and his ground game is pretty slick.

I wasn't too impressed with Hardy's fights prior to his title shot and he got demolished by GSP. So this should give us a better gauge of where he's at in the WW division.

No doubt this will be a good fight though.
 
#7 ·
I'm not sure Condit should be talking about "dominating" anyone. I think he'll beat Hardy but he was damn close to losing to both Ellenberger and Macdonald so domination would surprise me.
Exactly. What would you say happens if he gets tagged in the same manner by Hardy instead of the previous guys? Carlos has shown less than stellar strike avoidance skills, always willing ot mix it up and take a shot to deliver a shot. Well, this ain't Kansas anymore.. these guys are bigger and stronger than you Carlos and they have good technique. Keep leading with your chin and you're going to get KTFO.
 
#22 ·
Exactly. What would you say happens if he gets tagged in the same manner by Hardy instead of the previous guys? Carlos has shown less than stellar strike avoidance skills, always willing ot mix it up and take a shot to deliver a shot. Well, this ain't Kansas anymore.. these guys are bigger and stronger than you Carlos and they have good technique. Keep leading with your chin and you're going to get KTFO.
The same thing. Since when does Hardy have this miracle knockout power? He didn't even come close to knocking out the only two half decent fighters he's fought. I'm not saying his boxing sucks, but he's not known for his knockout power. Plus Condit has one of the best chins at WW. I really don't see Hardy (T)KOing Condit.
 
#24 ·
Biased judges? When Bisping beat Hamill it was the 2 American judges that gave Bisping the decision; the British judge scored it for Hamill. Judges make mistakes, had nothing to do with bias.

The same thing. Since when does Hardy have this miracle knockout power? He didn't even come close to knocking out the only two half decent fighters he's fought. I'm not saying his boxing sucks, but he's not known for his knockout power. Plus Condit has one of the best chins at WW. I really don't see Hardy (T)KOing Condit.
Didn't come close to knocking out Swick? He rocked him in every single round, but then failed to jump on him and finish it off. I'd probably suggest that was down to nerves, and knowing there was a title shot on offer if he was to win. He didn't want to leap in on Swick and get caught, he did rock Swick on multiple occasions, and he does have KO power. Do I think he'll knock Condit out? No, but if he catches Carlos on the button like he did to Markham, it's lights out.
 
#6 ·
I'm a huge Carlos Condit fan.. but the UFC is a bit different than WEC. Carlos doesn't carry the muscle mass nor the speed necessary to be successful in the upper echelons of WW in the UFC. He needs to drop to LW.

Condit is going to get knocked senseless by Dan F'n Hardy. I'm gonna hate it.. don't much like Hardy.... but this is a mis-match. On paper maybe it looks better... but this is not going to be competetive.
 
#8 ·
I'm a huge Carlos Condit fan.. but the UFC is a bit different than WEC. Carlos doesn't carry the muscle mass nor the speed necessary to be successful in the upper echelons of WW in the UFC. He needs to drop to LW.

Condit is going to get knocked senseless by Dan F'n Hardy.
I'm gonna hate it.. don't much like Hardy.... but this is a mis-match. On paper maybe it looks better... but this is not going to be competetive.
And why do you figure that? Hardy has only put 1 of his opponents away since he joined the UFC. It seems everyone still believes the UFC hype that he has amazing striking along with 1 punch KO power.
 
#11 ·
I actually think Condit is the type of fighter that will give Hardy an extremely hard time. I think Hardy is given way more hype than he deserves. Lets just look at his UFC Career as prior to that he fought mostly nobodies.

Loss 23-7 (1) Georges St. Pierre Decision (Unanimous) UFC 111: St.Pierre vs. Hardy
Win 23-6 (1) Mike Swick Decision (Unanimous) UFC 105: Couture vs. Vera
Win 22-6 (1) Marcus Davis Decision (Split) UFC 99: The Comeback
Win 21-6 (1) Rory Markham KO (Punch) UFC 95: Sanchez vs. Stevenson
Win 20-6 (1) Akihiro Gono Decision (Split) UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben

Now lets look at Carlos Condit's. I included WEC as most of us know who he fought.

Win 25-5 Rory MacDonald TKO (Strikes) UFC 115: Liddell vs. Franklin (FOTN)
Win 24–5 Jake Ellenberger Decision (Split) UFC Fight Night: Diaz vs. Guillard
Loss 23–5 Martin Kampmann Decision (Split) UFC Fight Night: Condit vs. Kampmann
Win 23–4 Hiromitsu Miura TKO (Punches) WEC 35: Condit vs. Miura (FOTN)
Win 22–4 Carlo Prater Submission (Guillotine Choke) WEC 32: New Mexico
Win 21–4 Brock Larson Submission (Armbar) WEC 29: Condit vs. Larson
Win 20–4 John Alessio Submission (Rear Naked Choke) WEC 26: Condit vs. Alessio
Win 19–4 Kyle Jensen Submission (Rear Naked Choke) WEC 25: McCullough vs. Cope

So in the UFC they are both pretty much the same, and I see this as a fight where one of them will have a chance to change their path. Dan Hardy was gifted the title shot, it happens all the time so I am not complaining, but it is why he is usually ranked higher than he probably deserves. I think both of these guys right now are in the middle of the WW division and it is this fight that will give one of them the legitimate opportunity to move, or at least start the path, to the upper levels of WW.

I think Hardy's power is overrated and Condit's ground game is overrated. They have been both given fights that should have been easy for them to finish as the other guy played to their strength and neither of them could. This is the UFC, the big leagues, if you can finish here then you are legit. If not then don't be surprised if it takes you a lot longer to get bigger fights and/or title fights, a la Fitch.
 
#17 ·
Condit doesn't have the power to knock Dan out, doesn't have the jiu jitsu to submit him or the wrestling to control him, so his only hope of winning is to out-point Dan. It's possible, but I'd say Dan has more tools to finish this fight. His power may be slightly over-rated, but if Dan lands a punch similar to the one he landed on Markham, it's lights out. He's notably stronger and bigger than he was early in his UFC career too, have you seen pictures of him recently? He looks massive, seemed to out-size Bisping in a picture of the 2 of them recently. Maybe I'm just a fanboy, but I see Dan Hardy winning this fight, and doing it convincingly.
 
#20 ·
Will be intresteing to see what Hardy has worked on since the GSP fight
 
#23 ·
condit will win, but not if it goes to decision where the biased judges will give it to hardy like they gave that fight to bisping over hamill
 
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