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#1 ·
yesterday morning at judo during randori, i was getting thrown with a big ippon seoinage, during the throw i felt i can go with this throw real hard and land on my feet, and not my back. things did not workout the way i planed. i went with the throw and landed on the sole of one foot under my butt kinda, but the impact was one of the hardest i have ever felt, it was probally due to such a retared fall i made myself take trying to do a hero move, but now i feel i may have a hairline or a seperation around my talonavicular joint-calcaneocubiod joint(i looked this up online, and got a picture of where it hurts), now i am walking around like ther are pins in my foot, sucks with cupertino next sunday, i hope it is nothing..
so basiclly just take the fall it is only practice is something i taught myself....
 
#3 ·
kishiro said:
wow you just gave me a flash back... while you sit down where it is safe.

YouTube - Matt Serra and Marc Laimon Argue
Awesome. I still think that Marc Laimon should fight Matt Serra. I'd pay so much more for that than for Matt getting kicked in the head by GSP.

AS for your spill... training is the time to do that kind of stuff. You don't want to do it in competition or on the street, so if you think something is going to work you should try it on the mat.

I've missed dozens of submissions in training. I've given up my back thinking that I could get out of positions. It's how you learn and training should be an environment where that's cool with everybody. Not that they won't laugh at you, but that you won't get a leg broken.
 
#4 ·
IronMan said:
Awesome. I still think that Marc Laimon should fight Matt Serra. I'd pay so much more for that than for Matt getting kicked in the head by GSP.

AS for your spill... training is the time to do that kind of stuff. You don't want to do it in competition or on the street, so if you think something is going to work you should try it on the mat.

I've missed dozens of submissions in training. I've given up my back thinking that I could get out of positions. It's how you learn and training should be an environment where that's cool with everybody. Not that they won't laugh at you, but that you won't get a leg broken.
stupid move with onlya week before a tournament
 
#5 ·
"Just take the fall" was the first thing I learned in Judo. =P

Back on subject; Sucks that it happened. There will be other tournements, though. And @ least you know you need to work on it.
 
#6 ·
EC_Raider_07 said:
"Just take the fall" was the first thing I learned in Judo. =P

Back on subject; Sucks that it happened. There will be other tournements, though. And @ least you know you need to work on it.
i usually take the fall, but for some reason (first time in 13 years) i had the sudden instinct to throw myself with the throw to try to beat the throw. i still swear i could do it, and i will try again later
 
#11 ·
kishiro said:
stupid move with onlya week before a tournament
True, but it would have been even stupider in a match where the other guy is seriously trying to maim you. I know that if I had an opponent do something crazy and experimental that he had clearly never tried before in a competition, I would make him pay for it.

If you think you can get it, keep working on it, but on the street and in the competitions stick to what you know works. That's all I'm saying.
 
#12 ·
IronMan said:
True, but it would have been even stupider in a match where the other guy is seriously trying to maim you. I know that if I had an opponent do something crazy and experimental that he had clearly never tried before in a competition, I would make him pay for it.

If you think you can get it, keep working on it, but on the street and in the competitions stick to what you know works. That's all I'm saying.
i agree, i was laughing it up the whole time until i landed, on the second thought i am not sure if i will beable to stick it, because there is too much going on at once, i will never be able to get it if he still has his grips.
 
#13 ·
kishiro said:
i agree, i was laughing it up the whole time until i landed, on the second thought i am not sure if i will beable to stick it, because there is too much going on at once, i will never be able to get it if he still has his grips.
Yeah, this is another thing in grappling. You get to have fun and chill and talk, but one thing I have learned is that when you are doing a technique or trying to do something new, focus. If you let yourself get distracted, then something is much more likely to go wrong.

As far as the grip breaking, if that is what you need there are ways to force that in no-gi grappling. In gi grappling, if he grabs a sleeve or a lapel he is not going to let go unless he is duly motivated. There are ways of doing that.

Exactly what are you trying to do?
 
#14 · (Edited)
IronMan said:
Yeah, this is another thing in grappling. You get to have fun and chill and talk, but one thing I have learned is that when you are doing a technique or trying to do something new, focus. If you let yourself get distracted, then something is much more likely to go wrong.

As far as the grip breaking, if that is what you need there are ways to force that in no-gi grappling. In gi grappling, if he grabs a sleeve or a lapel he is not going to let go unless he is duly motivated. There are ways of doing that.

Exactly what are you trying to do?
i threw myself (when being thrown) with an ippon seoinage, as hard as i could, trying to land on my feet so they get no points, and i be on my feet to make space and counter.
without thinking this one all the way through i threw myself with the throw as planned, i landed on my feet, but the force of the throw was too great, i landed in the bridge position, it sent a shock in my foot & my leg gave under the weight of two of us in this position, spraining my ankle and i ended up in a hurdlers like position.
i was forced to land in that position because of his grips. can't pull this move off with his still having his grips.

what was i going for??? i really am not sure, i guess some "hidden dragon" move or something....
 
#15 ·
kishiro said:
what was i going for??? i really am not sure, i guess some "hidden dragon" move or something....
Here's a problem. If you don't know where your going, it's usually pretty hard to get there.

Sometimes it's better to give up a few points and look for a solid counter that is more likely to work. Not that a "hidden dragon" move isn't good and fun to watch, but sometimes its more practical to just take the fall and look for the counter next or (if your really intent on a shut-out) stay on center and keep control of him. (that's never as easy as it sounds)

Sounds like it might be okay to give up on this one, though.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Tap112 said:
If I think of something really crazy, I'll try it as slow as possible at first, and when we are drilling.

not to spam, but this thread reminded me of this video:
YouTube - Backflip to Low Single

Im so tempted to try that but I know Ill probably just land on my head haha.
NICE MOVE!!!! that is what i am talking about. a move that you really can't do every time, but when pulled off it is the most impressive thing to be seen.
you must take risk sometimes. my situation i thought it was my time, sometimes things don't workout as planed.. unless your name is kyuzo mifune.

some guys here sound like they too had never had a point scored on them, or never made a mistake, or never got injured.
the reason i go is to learn, the most knowledgeable can learn from a guys first time ever on the mat. i belive it is better to try and fail than to not have tried at all
 
#18 ·
It's definitely better to f*ck up trying something new and innovative. Sometimes it's fun. I'm just saying that the place for that is training, not in competition and definitely not on the street.

Cool vid.
 
#20 ·
BJJ Boy said:
So you basicly try to land on youre feet instead of youre back and when you hit the ground youre feet were under you re ass? Ouch, that must have hurt. Does it still hurt?
yes it hurt, it still hurts, i am scared to put any real pressure to it
 
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