Served?! No.
More like given a lesson about SF.
Rival is one of the most knowledgeable members on this forum and he knows his thing about SF. You migh say it's his biggest stregth
I am not the biggest SF fan and ai admit of not knowing everything there is to know a bout SF, because i fon't get to see it that often: limited acces to SF events being a part of this.
Plus, i wasn't 100% sober at the time of my previous post. :shame02: I may have forgotten to mention some fighters.
But i will continue to stick to some of the statements i made.
Mousasi did the the same thing that the best pound for pound fighter in the world did w/out the last second submission. Against a better wreslter who has never come under question for PEDs.
Henderson has won 4 out of his last 5 those wins are over
Rich Franklin
Babalu
Rousiamar Palhares
and Michael Bisbing
That doesn't sound like a fighter that is over the hill.. he lost to Jake Shields who is world ranked in 2 different weight classes.. Yushin Okami also lost to Jake... so what does that mean?
Kyle has crazy power. And he's training at AKA with Cain Velasquez and Josh Koscheck.. he kept top position over a huge HW Bigfoot in his last fight for the entire round..
I'm not gonna do the UFC VS Strikeforce argument with you. For alot of members just having those letters across your gloves ups your skill set 90%
Babalu is not a can.. He's lost twice since 2007 to 2 of the top 5 LHWS in Strikeforce in Gegard Mousasi and Dan Henderson.
As far as LHW is concerned...
Feijao
Hendo
Mousasi
King Mo
Kyle
Ovince St. Preux
Babalu
and Roger Gracie
Comet to mind right away... thats not bad for an organizaiton that has only recently taken world stage when you think about it...
Not bad at all! I agree. They came a long way in recent times.
But i am still gonna give the UFC a big advantage when it comes to the LHW division. I think they have the better, more skilled, well-rounded fighters.
That doesn't mean one of the SF LHWs coudn't beat a UFC LHW.
But overall UFC's LHW is far better than SF's.
And my previous post was ment as a reply to Killer's post in wich he expressed his opinion about SF becoming the leading fight organisation for the big weight classes and the UFC for the lower weight classes: MW-WW-LW-FW-BW.
Wich i found ridiculous! Considering the UFC has a better LHW division, why would that make any sense?!
I'm still sticking to my original opinion:
Feijao would do well in the UFC. No doubt.
Mike Kyle is on bad mf. Huge guy, lots of power. he would be more than decent imo, but i don't see him being a contender. His record speaks for itself: 18-8-1.
Mousassi - is very skilled, but he lacks something to push him over the edge. Imo that something would be a world class Training Camp. He would be in the mix in the UFC's LHW division. I admit: i thought Mousassi was gonna be bigger than he is atm. In terms of his career. But he is still young and has time to evolve.
Henderson is not done, but i don't think he has what it takes to be a TOP fighter in the UFC for example.
Gracie is an amazing grappler, but 3 wins in his MMA career, spread on a 4 year period, doesn't say anything. His biggest win against a 39 yr old washed up Randleman. But, at 29 he still has time to improve, wich i think he will. He needs to improve his skill set though.
Mo - other than his wrestling and some KO power in his fists, he has nothing. His cardio is very poor. His standup is mediocre. His BJJ is mediocre also. He is like a younger less skilled Tito Ortiz, but stronger. I'm not buying his hype.
Ovince st Preux - saw him against Benji Radach, he looked decent, dominated the fight, but had problems trying to finnish the fight and was slowing down big time at the end of each round. But then again...who is Radach?! A guy who got KO'd by Scott Smith. St Preux isn't that skilled. He is a big strong guy, but he is mediocre overall.
And as far as
Babalu is concerned, he is done for me. I think he doesn't have that much to offer to the other LHW's. It may sound like i have something against him, but it's something i feel.
PS: we both forgot about Trevor Prangley
. He is gonna be an interesting test for Gracie.
Tyron Woodley and Tarec Saffedine need to be watched... those two are beasts..
Forgot about Woodley.
I admit on knowing close to nothing about Saffedine. I will do some research.
This is where you're real wrong...
Jorge Masvidal
Billy Evangelista
Justin Wilcox
Lyle Beerbohm
These guys are like the 4 horsemen all heavily skilled and capable of wreckin shit.
Beerbom and Evangelista are undefeated , Masvidal is slick striker with KO wins over Joe Lauzon and Yves Edwards, and Wilcox is just a beast, he just shut down Vitor Riberio in his last fight...
Those guys are very exciting and are the new generation of LWs in STRIKEFORCE..
Throw them in with Thompson, Melendez, JZ and Noons when he bounces back from WW like he does and you got some fights.....
Include the cross promotion with DREAM fighters like Aoki and the fact that Kawajiri is more than likely on his way over this year and you must have bumped your head to say that STRIKEFORCEs LW divsion is a bunch of cans...
Forgot about Mesvidal.
I know about Evangelista, but not that much about Beerbohm and Wilcox. My bad on this.
But having said that, don't you think SF should make some of these fights happen?! Have Wilcox fight Thosmon, or Mesvida fight Evangelista. these are fights the fans would love to see.
Imo SF are focusing too much on Melendez. Every second news you hear about the SF LW division is about Melendez. They should promote more these fighters you have mentioned and make some of these fights happen.
It would add more credibility to the LW division and make it more popular among the non-hardcore fans. Or those who don't know that much about SF.
At this point WW needs work but as it is they are well on their way of having a very respectable promotion.
Agreed!