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  • Dennis Siver

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • George Sotiropoulos

    Votes: 34 79.1%

***OFFICIAL*** Dennis Siver vs. George Sotiropoulos Pre/Post Fight Discussion

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#3 ·
Siver is good on the feet and i think Soti's stand up is underestimated.. Soti is good on the ground and i think Siver's ground game is underestimated. Although i do feel if Soti takes him down and gains top control Siver will struggle to get the fight back standing. Soti via late sub or UD.
 
#6 ·
You did a complete 180 there with your prediction, haha.

George should win this. It would be good to see his chin tested again. He got knocked out by Speer a long while ago on the ultimate fighter, but he has come a long way since then. He was also dropped by Pellegrino late in their fight by a knee so it would be interesting to see how he would react if Siver manages to catch him with something with a significant amount of time left on the clock. Either way, I'm not going to base my prediction on the possibility of a flash knock out. If George can keep his defense up and sticks to his game plan, this should be a good win for him.
 
#9 ·
Its must win for Soti skill-wise and experience-wise. But you cant count out Siver. Will be good scrap with Soti winning by some sub.
 
#11 ·
Soti has far too much of a reach advantage and will stymy any offense Siver has. Once it hits the ground he's going to suffocate em like a python.

Plus he's got home turf advantage!
 
#13 ·
the only chance siver has is a spinning back kick, even if that drops george he will ed up jumping into georges guard accidently and get subbed :p i could also see a soti ko he has done it before on tuf and another time a while ago but the smart money says a soti kimura or at worst a soti jumping RNC
 
#17 ·
Going to follow my heart completely on this one and say Siver by KO.

I care not for Soti and would like to see his lights go out.
Interesting, haven't met many people who would say that. It's gonna be an exciting match-up and I hope Siver puts up a really solid fight. He's been performing great in his last few fights and hopefully that continues. Having said that, I would not be surprised at all to see Soti outstrike him. You heard it.
 
#20 ·
everytime i see soti out hi stand up looks better, it still has a bit of an awkward look to it, but it definitely gets the job done, i'm hoping this time out his stand up has taken another leap...

soti rocks silver in 2nd and goes for a RNC dong a great BJ penn impersonation:thumb02:
 
#21 ·
I really don't see how Siver wins. Power shot or kick is perhaps the only way.

Any other time when Siver is o teh prelims, no one will talk as if he is legit. Yet when he makes a main card against a relevant fighter, he is all of a sudden a threat. Don't believe the hype, this isn't a close match up.

Soti won't be out-struck, and will eventually sub him. I'll go 2nd round armbar.
 
#23 ·
Siver has the striking advantage and I think his grappling is under rated.

Soti will probably get it to the matt and sub him, but i'm still not impressed with soti's actual wrestling ability.

Lets see what happens.
 
#30 ·
as a massive sotiropolous fan i'm actually kind of worried about what siver is going to bring, alot more so then everyone else by the looks of things. siver has obviously got a decent amount of power and i think it would be relatively easy for siver to catch even a glancing blow that could stun george for a moment.

still cheering for soti though, can't wait for this one.
 
#31 ·
Soti is extremely overrated right now in my opinion. He really got tooled by Lauson until he gassed out badly in the second round.

Soti is not very strong, doesn't have good Wrestling and his BJJ is also very overrated atm. Siver is no newbie in BJJ and if he fights smart, he could stay out of danger on the ground ( if Soti even get's it there).

If the fight stay on the feet for a couple of minutes.. than Siver takes him out 90% of the time. :thumbsup:

Soti can't fight somebody like this standing up, no way!



I mean who has he beat?? Lauzon is his best win so far!
 
#58 ·
That's debatable when you think about it. I know that the ultimate fighter doesn't count toward your professional record, but his fight with Tom Speer was in the semi finals which was scheduled to be a three round fight. He was brutally knocked out by Speer. Of course that was a long while ago, but that should count as a fairly legitimate loss in my opinion considering the fight was no different than an actual recorded fight in terms of rules. Not that it matters now, but I just wanted to throw that out there.
 
#40 ·
It's like you two watch fights with your brain turned off or something.


Lauzon made it very clear that is game plan was to come out really hard and finish in the first round. His brother leaked the gameplan, Lauzon confirmed it and it is what he did.

All George had to do was weather the storm (which he did without getting hurt or being put in any real danger) then when Lauzon had blown his whole load in round one, George made short work of him.


I think people are really forgetting the way he tooled Joe Stevenson everywhere, stand up and on the ground. Joe Daddy hadn't looked so outclassed since the Penn fight.
 
#43 ·
yeah sotis wrestling is a bit sloppy at times but he eventually gets you down and boom theres the sub, lauzon didnt connect with 95% of those strikes either if you properly watched and soti did have a bruise on his face, and he is a pretty good boxer actually, i would say he loses to edgar and maynard in the boxing dept. all siver has is kicks, he was losing the stand up with winner till he hit that no look right that dropped him.
 
#44 ·
I just got this feeling that Siver is going to cause an upset and take this one, every run has to come to an end and I think this will be that day for Sorti.

I could be wrong but I think Siver has a good enough BJJ game to survive Sorti should it go to the ground and I think the majority of the fight will be standing anyway where I think its only a matter of time till Siver catches a big shot puts SOrti in a world of trouble and moves in for the finish.

I have Siver to win via 2nd round KO/TKO.
 
#45 ·
i guarantee you this is like the lauzon fight, siver goes wild at the start soti avoids most of the strikes then eventually takes him down and subs him easily, if sotis run is gonna end it will against either miller or edgar
 
#48 · (Edited)
Indeed. Frankie Edgar's is also brutally overrated simply because he used movement to outpoint flat footed ass BJ.

Edgar would get butchered by a top flight LW striker...hell he was nearly butchered by Maynard...

Edgar outstriking BJ to me is really no different than Jardine outstriking Chuck and Forrest "outstriking" Rampage. Both are mediocre strikers that beat people with big time striking reputations.

As for this one, Siver has a shot like pointed out, but he's not some monster scrambler and his TDD is mediocre. I think George gets him down eventually and finishes the fight.
 
#49 ·
I agree about edgar and maynard. Thats why I really think a guy like Anthony Pettis could potentially beat both of them. He has better stand up than both guys and I was seriously impressed with his ground game, scrambling abilities in the Ben Henderson fight.
 
#50 ·
There's something about George Sotiropoulos that makes me think of a 19th century bare knucle fighter plying his trade in water front bars.

He's not fast, fancy or pretty. But, he knows a lot about hurting people.

I say George bends something in an ugly way in the 1st round.
 
#51 ·
i dont think soti is as useless at stand up as most seem to think, he did KO rollins easily on tuf even though its not a geat name it does prove he can ko people, he just uses the simple gameplan of going to your strengths ala fitch,edgar,maynard,shields and bisping. i think he is at a very good boxing gym and he always improves it all the time, that said i see a brutal armbar on siver that will leave russians and germans cringing
 
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