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UFC 129: USA v Canada 2

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#1 ·
As a US/Canada duel citizen I'm more excited about this card than any in recent memory. It features 9 US-Canada matchups!! That is the more than UFC 58, which was actually referred to as US vs Canada. The first time the US took it 5-3 (weird that they would use an even number), but this time Canada has the home field advantage!So what Country do you have winning this unofficial challenge? The matchups are (my picks in bold):

GSP v Shields
Mark Bocek v Ben Henderson
Rory MacDonald v Nate Diaz
Sean Pierson v Brian Foster
Yves Jabouin v Pablo Garza
Claude Patrick v Daniel Roberts
Ivan Menjivar v Charlie Valencia
Jason MacDonald v Ryan Jensen
John Makdessi v Kyle Watson

I guess I got it 5-4 US, but it's tight. The only locks I see are GSP over Shields and Rory over Nate Diaz. It kills me to pick against Makdessi, but Watson is probably lightyears ahead of him at grappling.

So who ya got?
 
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#5 ·
Why on earth would you pick Ryan Jensen over J-Mac? J-Mac has some legit wins and hasn't lost to any real low level fighters his weakest loss being a freak injury against John Salter in a fight he appeared to be winning. Jensen has beaten absolutely nobody and has lost to any semi relevant fighter he has ever fought. Look for both those trends to continue.
 
#7 ·
While I agree that Jensen has never beaten a relevant fighter, MacDonald hasn't beaten a relevant fighter since April '08. Jensen looked pretty solid during the first round against Court McGee, and J-Mac hasn't fought in a year. I expect the betting line to be slightly in MacDonald's favor, but Jensen to pull off a decision victory. I couldn't just pick all the favorites :)
 
#8 ·
GSP v Shields
Mark Bocek v Ben Henderson
Rory MacDonald v Nate Diaz
Sean Pierson v Brian Foster
Yves Jabouin v Pablo Garza
Claude Patrick v Daniel Roberts
Ivan Menjivar v Charlie Valencia
Jason MacDonald v Ryan Jensen
John Makdessi v Kyle Watson

I hadn't even noticed this unlike the 117 card. Pretty cool, I guess I have it 5-4 for Canada and I would like to say I'm as impartial as it comes (in this regard, as I'm Dutch). In a way I love these unofficial nation v nation cards (like 117 and even 127 to some extent) but it kind of undermines the message that UFC could come with any card and the fans would buy it (as DW often says) when they stack a card with this many "hometown" fighters.
 
#9 ·
I hate this US vs Canada or US Vs Uk , unless its actually a international tournament to represent your country to me it should be GSP Vs Shields and the origins dont mean shit.

I hate that USA USA USA or Aussie Aussie Aussie or Barmy Army etc just respect the fighter himself.
 
#15 · (Edited)
GSP v Shields
Mark Bocek v Ben Henderson
Rory MacDonald v Nate Diaz
Sean Pierson v Brian Foster
Yves Jabouin v Pablo Garza
Claude Patrick v Daniel Roberts
Ivan Menjivar v Charlie Valencia
Jason MacDonald v Ryan Jensen
John Makdessi v Kyle Watson
I have it 5-4 for Canada... but like you said it's tight. Thats really cool that they did this, I didn't even notice :) I hope the US wins so I have something to rag on Intermission for.

I hadn't even noticed this unlike the 117 card. Pretty cool, I guess I have it 5-4 for Canada and I would like to say I'm as impartial as it comes (in this regard, as I'm Dutch). In a way I love these unofficial nation v nation cards (like 117 and even 127 to some extent) but it kind of undermines the message that UFC could come with any card and the fans would buy it (as DW often says) when they stack a card with this many "hometown" fighters.
I don't think him stacking it with hometown guys has anything to do with PPV numbers, it's more to do with gate sales. If you didn't know this already, UFC 129 sold out in minutes and it sold 50,000+ seats IIRC. I think part of it is also due to fighters WANTING to fight in their home town, too. Nothing like having a 50,000+ crowd chant your name when you walk into the cage. My God I couldn't imagine that feeling.
 
#20 ·
I don't think him stacking it with hometown guys has anything to do with PPV numbers, it's more to do with gate sales. If you didn't know this already, UFC 129 sold out in minutes and it sold 50,000+ seats IIRC. I think part of it is also due to fighters WANTING to fight in their home town, too. Nothing like having a 50,000+ crowd chant your name when you walk into the cage. My God I couldn't imagine that feeling.
Yeah but don't underestimate the atmosphere that adds on television. Think about how Montreal erupted when GSP came out to fight Serra or Kos. It adds something and gives the feeling that the fight is more important even if it does it only subconsciously.
 
#22 ·
Yeah but don't underestimate the atmosphere that adds on television. Think about how Montreal erupted when GSP came out to fight Serra or Kos. It adds something and gives the feeling that the fight is more important even if it does it only subconsciously.
I get goose bumps every time i atch this:



Btw: are you going to UFC 129 Toxic?!
 
#17 ·
The first USA vs Canada was actually pretty damn good, it was the UFC that made me get back into it again having not watched the previous two dozen UFCs.

GSP v Shields
Mark Bocek v Ben Henderson
Rory MacDonald v Nate Diaz
Sean Pierson v Brian Foster
Yves Jabouin v Pablo Garza
Claude Patrick v Daniel Roberts
Ivan Menjivar v Charlie Valencia
Jason MacDonald v Ryan Jensen
John Makdessi v Kyle Watson

I'm the only one taking Bocek? Wazzupwidat?
 
#19 ·
The real winner here is the fans

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#25 ·
Results:

Garza over Jabouin
Makdessi over Watson
MacDonald over Jensen
Menjivar over Valencia
Patrick over Roberts
Ellenberger over Pierson
MacDonald over Diaz
Henderson over Bocek
GSP over Shields (but we all lost in that fight)

Really sweet card overall. Canada beats the US 6-3. I think I underestimated the home field advantage for the canucks.
 
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