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Manager: Anderson Silva Wouldn't Have a Problem Fighting GSP at a Catcweight

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#1 ·
It has been said that two of the top pound-for-pound fighters, Anderson Silva and Georges St. Pierre might be headed for a collision course if the latter gets past Jake Shields on UFC 129. GSP has been a bit hesitant to bulk up and make the jump to middleweight, and our own Jonathan Snowden has even made the case that St. Pierre shouldn't risk his health and legacy by taking on a guy who severely outweighs him.

St. Pierre has also said in the past that if he makes the jump to 185, he will do it right and pack on the pounds, making his drop back down to welterweight almost impossible. It may not be wise for him to jump 15 pounds out of his natural weight class, but what if both men compromised at a catchweight?

While some people think that Silva, who has fought at light heavyweight before, might be too drained out to fight below 185, his manager, Jorge Guimaraes says that wouldn't be a problem at all:

"Anderson has proven he’s the best fighter and he handles it quite good. It’s a complicated fight to GSP… It’s a pretty bad fight for him. Anderson has this biotype, he loses weight easily, he can make any weight, so I believe a catchweight division would be perfect for GSP, and Anderson wouldn’t have problems with that. Who’d have a problem would be GSP, because Anderson can lose that weight easily and, at the day of the fight, he’d be on his usual weight, so I believe it’s complicated for Georges St. Pierre".


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/1...oblem-fighting-georges-st-pierre-gsp#comments
Andy pushing for the fight again, GSP will avoid, AGAIN.
 
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#15 ·
This fight is gonna happen along with Anderson vs Shogun and probably Overeem/Fedor/Big Foot vs the UFC HW in the near future.

It's inevitable. The response from the masses is overwhelming. I mean how fricken cool is that. They try negotiating with Fedor/Overeem, but they're bound by contracts. So what do they do they buy out the entire org just like they did with WEC, IFL, Affliction, Pride, and now Strike Force.

I just realized something they need to create an MMA Monopoly version!
 
#16 ·
How the f*** can folks call gsp #1 p4p?...anderson is willing to compromise while gsp has to think about it...gsp better not have another excuse after he beats shields...he's starting to remind me of mayweather's bitch ass...I enjoy watching gsp fight and anderson would make gsp fight if they met in the cage
 
#19 ·
Pretty easily, who has Anderson beaten on the p4p list? The claim is this is a compromise, well with Anderson I'm always curious as to the catch. GSP isn't fighting a guy who took a year off, GSP doesn't have a half dozen contenders for his title, GSP has fought a super fight already and won handily.

And frankly after Anderson's Light Heavyweight title run I will never trust him again.
 
#21 ·
St-Pierre acknowledges the fact that it will act as a blot on his career if he never moves up to fight middleweight king Silva, and he revealed a move to 185lbs could happen in the not-too-distant future.

"I plan to do it at one point in my career," GSP told Ultimate Insider. "The problem is not to go up. The problem is to go back down after. And it's not good to play with your health because when you gain weight and you jump another weight class, the reaction time is different.

"The reaction time for a fighter is very important. You have the reaction time and the reset time. And this thing, when you add weight to yourself and you change weight class it changes, according to the weight class. So that's the problem.

"I want to make sure I've done everything I had to do in my division before I go up, because once I go up, I might for a little bit hold two titles at the same time, but as soon I'm going to go up and take care of business when I'm up, I'm going to let go of my other title."

This is pre GSP V Koshceck II interview with Joe Rogan. GSP needs to grow up.

He has no problem of talking about becoming the Michael Jordon or Tiger Woods of MMA. Or his movie, but a future fight with Anderson Silva - just reasons why he shouldn't fight him - 'Anderson weighs 230 lbs,' 'he fought 170 lbs a couple years ago.'
 
#28 ·
How is GSP scared? When has he ducked him, he still has his own weight class to clear, why don't some of you realize that. And, he said himself that if his moving up in weight his doing it properly to be at his full potential. Nothing wrong with that.
 
#37 ·
And your assumption is based on what? Frankly I haven't heard anything from GSP that points to him wanting to fight Silva when he is older. If GSP said something like, I will fight Silva in 5 years, then your assumption would have something behind it, but as of right now, your assumption has no support.
 
#35 ·
Listen (<- my Dana White style of starting off)...

Nobody cared that BJ was cleary smaller than GSP when he fought him. BJ was a badass who wanted to beat the crap out of GSP. It was great. GSP whooped him because he was stronger than BJ, especially in the 2nd fight.

Yes Anderson is bigger than George, but do you really think that Anderson is stronger than GSP? I said this before and I still think it, I'd bet cash that GSP could squat way more than Andy...

Ok, so GSP is stronger and smaller, Andy is lankier and more elusive. It's a fantastic fight.

GSP has had no problem fighting lots of smaller guys in his day (Sherk / Hughes / BJ). It's because he's a champ and knows how to cut. Not necessarily his fault. But take a fight where you are the underdog for once... has anyone seriously thought in the last 6 years that George would ever lose against his opponents?? I haven't.

Has anyone ever been worried that Anderson would lose to Hendo, or when he moved up in weight? You bet!

GSP vs Anderson would be EPIC, admit it...
 
#39 ·
People act like Andy is built like Brock Lesnar too, hes too big for GSP. Look at him, hes a lanky, skinny mother trucker. Like previously posted, there is no doubt that GSP is the physically stronger man.

If GSP is still fishing for excuses after the Shields fight, then god damn, I give up.
 
#52 ·
GSP will never fight anderson and from dana last interview i dont think he wants him to fight silva either.

GSP will just keep handing out excuses and keep postponing the fight which will never happen.

Coward.
 
#58 ·
Calling a professional fighter a coward from the confines of your home is pretty weak.

GSP is a great fighter with plenty of WW challenges and i dont see why he has to move up , if this is the case when Jones is champion and beats all the contenders is he obliged to move up and face the HW champion and the same for every other champion in other weight classes ? i find it laughable GSP is made out to be the one who is scared for not fighting a bigger guy , why doesnt Silva call out Shogun or Jones ?
 
#54 ·
Interesting, I would say BJ had the skills to beat GSP and Forrest didn't have the skills to beat Anderson. But if you want to count a win over BJ to be slightly better than a win over Forrest...okay.

Problem is...GSP beat BJ twice.
 
#57 ·
Personally I take everything that comes out of either side with a large helping of salt. Main reason? Neither of them speaks English as a first language, GSP's on the record as saying that some of the stuff that comes out in his interviews isn't quite what he meant since he's not quite fluent in the language. Interview him in French and we'll be able to get a much better idea of what he's actually thinking and what he really means.

Anderson's camp, especially Ed Soares have been known to give, how should I put this, less than accurate translations. Until I see a Portugese interview which is translated by a professional I'm going to have a hard time taking it seriously.
 
#62 · (Edited)
Am I the only one who thinks GSP's public waffling on this fight may just be a message to Dana, that if he wants this super-fight, GSP is going to want a massive bonus check?
 
#63 ·
Id say you're on your own. Money isnt the issue i think the fight details are , weight , Championship fight etc etc.

Both camps want to have an edge and i think the only fair thing is meeting in the middle , the money will be good anyways and he will receive a massive bonus regardless.
 
#68 ·
What are you getting at here?? If its that GSP is a big WW then those pictures certainly dont prove that. Matt Serra is a LW that decided to have his career in WW. BJ Penn was never a WW but he doesn't need money since he is a rich man as is. So he has the luxury of moving around in weight and being granted TS left and right and not having to worry about losing money since he doesn't need it to begin with.
 
#70 ·
Anderson has never shown an interest in this fight. Saying he'll fight at catchweight is to protect his belt.

I posted a recent interview where he was directly asked if *he wanted* the fight, and his response was, "its a great fight for the fans."

Everything about his facial expression and body language says hes not interested. I'm 100% convinced neither of these guys want it right now.
 
#71 ·
I dont think it has any thing to do with the belt. Anderson has mentioned dropping down to fight GSP at 170 and GSP goes quiet.

Anderson has pushed for this fight more than once and GSP avoids.

As for Anderson in interviews, he's the same in all interviews when asked about any of his opponents. His arrogance and body language make it look like he's not interested in fighting any body.
 
#73 ·
One of the first things I am sure we as fans love about martial arts and mma compared to boxing is the fact that a loss is not as significant, well should I say damaging to a fighter than it is in boxing.

As a result these types of super fights tend to happen much more frequently.

I would hate to see mma/the ufc slowly move down the route of boxing, where by every big fight takes months and months of negotiating and fighters seek to avoid the most dangerous challengers to pad their record and seek easier pay days.

If this is the fight most mma fans want to see I really hope the UFC gets it done, now.

I saw a video (I assume on here, if not my own random google searching) where Dana was asked the question about this fight and he said there were a couple of fights that needed to be done first...GSP vs Shields and Anderson rematching Sonnen and then the fight would happen (if they were both successful)

I don't know how recent that interview was and if plans have changed since, but although as I have stated before I would personally rather see Silva fight the winner of Shogun/Jones, I do think that if this is the real fight the public want to see it should happen.

Obviously I can understand fights between guys at different companies being hard to match, but in a world where UFC owns both fighters contracts this should really happen. Catchweight seems to be the obvious answer with neither fighter risking their gold and I would like to think a loss, so long as a good performances is put in either way would not be something either fighter would really worry too much about (like the 'old' days of martial arts where fighters fought so much even the best had several losses on their record)
 
#74 ·
One of the first things I am sure we as fans love about martial arts and mma compared to boxing is the fact that a loss is not as significant, well should I say damaging to a fighter than it is in boxing.

As a result these types of super fights tend to happen much more frequently.
That is because fights in boxnig relies completely upon promoters agreeing on who is fighting, how much money there is, and then how much they will ultimately receive.

UFC fighters have contracts that lay out their salary and there is a matchmaker. Yes, the fighters need to agree ultimately, but it is far easier to get this done than it is in boxing.

I would hate to see mma/the ufc slowly move down the route of boxing, where by every big fight takes months and months of negotiating and fighters seek to avoid the most dangerous challengers to pad their record and seek easier pay days.
It doesn't. This has been being talked about for so long because Dana White keeps bringing it up, but then calls it off. For example he was all for it, and then after the Silva/Maia fight, he said it wasn't happening. Now he wants it again.

If this is the fight most mma fans want to see I really hope the UFC gets it done, now.
Just because it is what the fans want doesn't mean it needs to happen. If GSP plans to remain at welterweight, then there is no reason he should need to put on weight to fight a bigger opponent.

I saw a video (I assume on here, if not my own random google searching) where Dana was asked the question about this fight and he said there were a couple of fights that needed to be done first...GSP vs Shields and Anderson rematching Sonnen and then the fight would happen (if they were both successful)

I don't know how recent that interview was and if plans have changed since, but although as I have stated before I would personally rather see Silva fight the winner of Shogun/Jones, I do think that if this is the real fight the public want to see it should happen.
Although it is appealing, I do not want to see Silva holding the LHW belt. It would screw things up. If Machida gets back to winning ways and Little Nog moves up the rankings a bit, then we would have a champ and 2 top contenders that refuse to fight each other.

Obviously I can understand fights between guys at different companies being hard to match, but in a world where UFC owns both fighters contracts this should really happen. Catchweight seems to be the obvious answer with neither fighter risking their gold and I would like to think a loss, so long as a good performances is put in either way would not be something either fighter would really worry too much about (like the 'old' days of martial arts where fighters fought so much even the best had several losses on their record)
The problem is that GSP still wants to fight in the WW division. He still has people he can beat there to fully clean out the division. If that is what he wants, then there is nothing wrong with it it all.
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#75 ·
How is it even possible to clean out a division? There are always going to be new prospects and fresh talent emerging in each division. GSP could go on to dominate and defend his title another 3 times and still, you could make the argument that he hasn't cleaned out the division.
 
#89 ·
well he's not enthusiastic about the idea because, and he said it, he has another fight to focus on, and this is the one against Shields.

What use would it be for him to blah about the andy fight while he's supposed to be preparing for Shields ?

I'm pretty sure all who now call him a pu**y would have called him "disrespectful" if he was talking bout andy while preparing for Shields.

haters gonna hate

That being said, I don't see GSP winning against silva, all I can see is him getting caught while shooting for a TD

I see GSP winning a rematch tho, but as it is now, I'm pretty sure silva would take him out just as easily he took out just about anyone else
 
#90 ·
I really do hope thats the case, after Shields, we'll see how he likes the idea then.

I have GSP winning. Stylistically, he's almost the prototype to beat Anderson. Andy's biggest weakness is his wrestling, GSP happens to have the bet damn MMA wrestling in the game. On top of that, hes got great sub defense and great striking himself.

I think GSP would easily shrug off any sub attempts from Andy and control him for the majority of the fight.
 
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