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Could Dan Henderson be the answer to Jon Jones?

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#1 ·
Jon Jones looks unstoppable right now but I personally think Hendo could be the man to de-thrown him. If u look at it on the feet Jones probably has the more exciting and diverse game but Hendo has one punch ko power and Jones Greco wrestling his is strongest and Hendo was olympic level in Greco. The only place I see Jones having a real advantage is submissions and he has to get him down first
 
#2 ·
No. Dan is a horrible striker despite his power, his mma wrestling is not as outstanding as one would expect from an Olympic caliber wrestler. Lastly Dan's top game is shit. It really is how can a guy whose been in the game that long have so little top game? Dan is a good all around fighter with excellent sub defense, an iron jaw and dynamite in his hands but he does not excel in any area. Jones is to athletic, to explosive and just plain better in every area we have seen.(we can not judge Jones on the bottom yet).
 
#5 ·
I don't think Dan would land that big bomb. I think people give Dan to much respect, Bisping did it and so did Fejao. They are so scared of that big bomb that they just let him do the shotgun approach where if he throws it enough times something has to land. Close the distance, pressure him but don't let him just stand there and throw bombs. Jones is likely to throw keep the pressure on and if Shields can take Dan down, well I am confident Jones can after seeing him out wrestle guys like Hammill,Bader and Vladimir Matyushenko who despite not competing in the olympics did compete at the International level against Olympic wrestlers.
 
#7 ·
Henderson has looked good recently, but Jones would have a huge size and reach advantage that would make it very difficult for Hendo standing. Jon Jones wrestling is good enough to stuff Hendo's TD too.

It's a nice idea, but I can't see Hendo doing well against Jones.
 
#14 ·
Out of everyone to choose from you choose Dan? The guy's not even in the UFC, it's a pointless analysis.

Guys who can beat jones are good strikers, or big guys, that's it. Lyoto, Shogun, Rampage, maybe Forrest Griffin. Shogun got whooped, but he did have surgery and it was his first fight back after awhile out of the octagon. Lyoto has all the tools necessary to beat Jones. Rampage and Griffin negate Jone's size advantage, and are powerful dudes, Rampage is an especially dangerous match up for jones, I doubt Jones gets rampage down easily and he'll have to stand with him which is pretty dangerous.
 
#19 ·
I effing love Henderson but I'm fully convinced he would get smashed in that matchup. Jones' takedowns are so explosive that I think he'd be able to get Hendo down at will and on the feet I think Jones would hit him with enough to rattle him until he secured the takedown and finished with his sick ground and pound. Hendo is great but Jones is just a phenomenon.
 
#21 ·
Simply put, NO, Hendo would not be the man to dethrone Jones. If not for that sledgehammer right hand, Hendo's stand up would be mediocre at best. Besides, Hendo could not get close enough to land that slow pitch overhand, giving up over 10 inches in reach. Jones is more dynamic anywhere this fight goes. Standing, Hendo - Overhand right, Jones - anything he wants to throw. Clinch, this is close, since both have world class Greco, but I'm gonna go with Jones because he actually uses throws now, and I don't think I've seen Hendo successfully throw anyone since pride. Ground, this'd have to be Jones also, cuz if the Wrestling was even, Jones has submissions, Hendo doesn't, or at least doesn't use them, at all, ever. Again, No Hendo is not the answer to Jon Jones.
 
#25 ·
No.

Henderson is very small compared to Jones , alot slower , his reach is smaller , Jones has better TD's believe it or not , Jones has a better top game.

Thats all you need to know and that Dan is like 40 years old now.
 
#27 ·
Seriously. You really think that if a MW/WW can control, Henderson a LHW/HW, who has never been anything BUT dominant in wrestling, can't?

And that's just wrestling. Henderson has ONE weapon to beat Jones, the right hand, and he's not getting anywhere near Jones chin with that reach.

Some threads man....
 
#28 ·
Hnederson has got to be one of the most successful unskilled fighters out there. His wrestling is good but he doesn't seem to be able to use it as well as other top wrestlers, his top game is mediocre at best, his striking is bad and he's not much good off his back.

He's got to where he is through a wrestling base, being able to throw sloppy punches very hard and having a head that can be punched without being effected much.

There's really not much skill involved, he's just a really really tough guy with strength, power and a really hard head.

He's far too small for Jones. Dan can only put fighters on the mat when he gets in close and can get greco roman on them, but how's he going to do tha against stretch? And even if he does, Jones' wrestling is greco roman influenced anyway, and it's in the clinch that he's most dangerous. He throws and trips guys in such an unorthadox way, Hendo would have no answer for that. Hammill is a brute of a wrestler, but strength and wrestling goes out the window when a guy as big as Jones wraps those long arms around your neck and swipes your feet from under you.

Rashad has more of a chnce than Hendo, because he has a good shot which he can set up well.

Don't be surprised if Rashad does well against Jones, because we haven't seen someone with that sort of explosive shot face him, then we'll see what Jones is made of. Machida could also be a test because he'd be much harder to hit than Shogun was.
 
#29 ·
Yeah, Hendo has some of the worst wrestling I've ever seen from a guy with a supposed high level wrestling base.

A literal laundry list of fighters have taken him down, and just as many have controlled him there.
Rampage, and Shields are the two best wrestlers he's faced and they got him down without any trouble.

Some weren't even wrestlers, like Ninja Rua, Arona, Big Nog and Roussimar Palhares who picked him up and slammed him.

And that's just off the top of my head. I believe Bustamante got him down as well.
 
#32 · (Edited)
No chance. Jones is far to athletic and his reach advantage would be monumental in this fight.

Hendo is not the guy to beat Jones, however much i like and respect him.

The guy to beat Jones is still Shogun or possibly Rampage.
 
#33 ·
I got to be honest, I would not make any fighter in the UFC or SF a favorite to beat Jones, in fact its possible that he could have both the best ground game and stand up in LHW MMA, only weakness I have seen in him over the last couple of years is a tenancy to leave himself a little open to submission attempts on the ground and I have thought sometimes that a better BJJ fighter could of took advantage of some situations, but even that is something that he is improving and I was especially impressed in the Bader fight when he did a great job of keeping much better posture and looked a lot more controlled and safer than he usually does on the ground, every other time before that I thought he was a little to over aggressive to the point he was giving up safety first for stronger offence.

But No I don't think Hendo would beat Jones or anyone else but I would stylistically give Roger Gracie the best chance in MMA simply because he maybe the only fighter to have at least one edge on him in the ground game if he can get him there, as for stand up, I think despite all the hype been on his wrestling background, I think his stand up is the best in the LHW division.

One fight I would really love to see however is Fedor vs Jones, I don't care if it was at a catch weight of say 220 or at LHW assuming Fedor can make the cut which really he should be able to do, considering Jones size as a LHW a fight with Fedor at a catch weight of 220lb could be the super fight of the century, a true test of old school vs new, especially since if there was a in between division from LHW to HW you would think that both Fedor and Jones would belong in it.
 
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