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So, there are actually people who think this guy has a shot in hell beating Silva?

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#1 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDsFK3WhwSs

I never actually saw the first fight, this guy is ******* horrid. Furthermore, Silva has improved like crazy since then and this fight was at 165?

There is no point in this fight even taking place, Silva is going to ******* rofflestomp this kid. This is a waste of a Silva fight, he is nearing the end of his career and THIS is the kind of fights he's getting? The hell is this?
 
#2 ·


fixed

Anyways, I agree with you to an extent.
Silva isn't going to fight for much longer and this fight doesn't promise much excitement, but then again, you never never know.

I guess Silva had to get an opponent, and Okami was the one that made more sense. He did win the title shot fight with nate. Not in a devastating way, but hey he did win it. He was next in line, unfortunately.

Don't forget, the hype machine can take the whole the last man that "beat" silva and blow it out of proportion. Which is only good for them.
 
#3 ·
Yes. Anderson still isn't a great wrestler and Okami has some serious grappling chops. Okami has also improved far more than Silva has. Sure, Silva's refined parts of his game, but Okami's taken his wrestling to another dimension, and now is a more than competent boxer. Okami is also MUCH larger physically since the first fight. Looks like a totally different fighter.
 
#51 ·
This.

You're mental to think that this fight has any bearing on the old fight. That figh was so long ago it's ridiculous. Look at Fitch/Alves and Fitch/Alves 2, GSP/Penn 1 and 2 etc. Fights with this long of a delay between them, especially ones early in either fighters career, mean next to nothing about the next fight. Yushin is easily the best all around grappler at MW (I said grappling, Chael is the best pure wrestler but he has shit defense, Maia is the best BJJ Player but his takedowns need work) and Anderson's Achilles' Heel is his wrestling (as exposed by Henderson and Chael both. Yes, Hendo lost, but only because he's ******* retarded).
 
#5 ·
good wrestler who is ever improving and working with somebody like Sonnen can only help. On top of his wrestling Okami is also an explosive and a more dynamic fighter, where Sonnen is more methodical. Okami definetly presents some unique problems for Silva while also possessing some of the tools that Sonnen used to exploit Silva's largest hole. The first fight is largely irrelevant as both fighters have evolved so much that if you expect to see the same two fighters in the cage your nothing short of fooling yourself.
 
#7 ·
I actually think Okami is going to UD Silva. Silva has been - to an extent - exposed.

I like Silva. He has some great highlights and his striking in on another level. It seems as though good wrestling with good sub defense is the key to beating him. You better believe Okami knows that and has the tools to win. As Khov mentioned, the only way I see Okami losing is if he goes in there and is scared. If Okami is hesitant Silva will pick him apart and KO him in 1.
 
#13 ·
I actually think Okami is going to UD Silva. Silva has been - to an extent - exposed.

I like Silva. He has some great highlights and his striking in on another level. It seems as though good wrestling with good sub defense is the key to beating him. You better believe Okami knows that and has the tools to win. As Khov mentioned, the only way I see Okami losing is if he goes in there and is scared. If Okami is hesitant Silva will pick him apart and KO him in 1.
*flips over table*.


Sorry...I can't handle foolishness.

At any rate, no....he wasn't "exposed". The notion that Chael Sonnen revealed some titanic weakness in Silva that everyone will follow for the rest of time is absurd. Everyone that knew anything about MMA knew that Anderson had sub-par wrestling. The fact is, he's managed to win in spite of it.

Is GSP "exposed" because he has a questionable chin, therefore any striker will beat him?

Was Fedor "exposed", many moons ago when it was revealed a good submission grappler could really positionally dominate him? No. That's just foolish talk.
 
#8 ·
OP surely this is edging on troll-like behaviour! Any fighter has a chance on beating another fighter, EVERYONE has a punchers chance at least, coupled with Okami's effective wrestling approach he has a decent shot....did you think Sonnen would have done so well just looking at the fight on paper? No you didn't.

Your dismissal of Okami with no real reason to back it up is childish and amateur at best!
 
#17 ·
People said Stann had no chance against Leben.

You just don't know in MMA, all it takes is one punch.
 
#20 ·
I will be rooting for silva all the way. But something deep inside tell me okami might shock the world. Remember this is mma and anything can happen. SIlva has been so good for so long and nothing good lasts forever. I hope silva kills okami but i an not writing off an okami win.
 
#31 · (Edited)
He's got a ton bigger since that youtube fight, interesting.

EDIT: when the hell did he fight Nate

EDIT2: checking his wiki it shows he lost to Rich and Chael whom both got beat my Silva.

Also, Silva stated after the Sonnen fight that he was purposly waiting to sub Sonnen because of the comment he made about the Nog's blackbelt crackerjack box comment. So he was trying to prove a point, which he did. Perhaps he was just trying to save face, but that is what he said.
 
#40 ·
1) There is no chance in hell Okami finishes Silva
2) A healthy, uninjured AS has 5 rounds in which to finish Okami via his preferred method

Bottom line is this is either a 5 round dance around for Silva or a 1st round TKO. Im going with the latter.
 
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Win 23–3 (1) Thiago Alves Decision (unanimous) UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen August 7, 2010 3 5:00 Oakland, California Catchweight (171.5 lb) bout; Thiago Alves did not make weight
Win 22–3 (1) Ben Saunders Decision (unanimous) UFC 111: St-Pierre vs. Hardy March 27, 2010 3 5:00 Newark, New Jersey
Win 21–3 (1) Mike Pierce Decision (unanimous) UFC 107: Penn vs. Sanchez December 12, 2009 3 5:00 Memphis, Tennessee
Win 20–3 (1) Paulo Thiago Decision (unanimous) UFC 100 July 11, 2009 3 5:00 Las Vegas, Nevada
Win 19–3 (1) Akihiro Gono

Gono, Paulo, Mike Pierce, and Ben Saunders are not credible enough wins to get you even close to a 2nd title shot. The Alves win is great (even though Alves was a shell of his normal self), and if he had dominated Penn those two victories would get him close. But the other four wins definitely won't.
At his level 5 straight wins in any other division would have got him a title shot. After his loss to GSP the UFC obviously did a really good job not throwing prospects like Dailey or Hardy at him cause he would have derailed what little the didn't have going on. He would have been a bad match up for both. He's not the most exciting fighter but he wins...
 
#57 ·
At his level 5 straight wins in any other division would have got him a title shot. After his loss to GSP the UFC obviously did a really good job not throwing prospects like Dailey or Hardy at him cause he would have derailed what little the didn't have going on. He would have been a bad match up for both. He's not the most exciting fighter but he wins...
There's a TON of fighters with 5 fight win streaks that aren't close to a title shot, and have fought better competition.
 
#47 ·
Okami wasn't robbed of title shots before. The first title contender eliminator that he won was vs. Nate. He had one against Rich Franklin and lost, one against Chael and lost, and then one against Marquardt and won therefor got the title shot.


I think Dana has been trying his hardest to get Okami to the title honestly. He loves to support the Japanese/British fighters and get them in the limelight.
 
#62 ·
I wouldn't say robbed, but I wouldn't say he's getting massive Dana love.

He was scheduled to have a title shot, but he got hurt and was replaced by Cote. After he came back, Leites got the the next shot. Then Silva fought Forrest.

So, after being the number one contender, Okami was passed over once after he came back and won, then the champion fought in a non-title fight. I certainly wouldn't call it a robbery, but he wasn't being led by the hand to a shot.
 
#53 ·
All I'm going to say is everybody has a shot. Sometimes the unexpected happens. It happened with Randy Couture when he fought Chuck Liddell and Tim Sylvia. No one ever saw Matt Serra beating GSP. Jon Jones should have been dominated by Shogun instead it was the other way around. Chuck Liddell was suppose to destroy the wrestler Rashad Evans. Forrest Griffin was not suppose to beat Shogun or Rampage Jackson. Oh yeah, wasn't Frankie Edgar supposed to get smashed by BJ Penn? TWICE!

I don't believe Yushin is going to win but their is a small chance that he might. It happen before it might very well happen again.
 
#60 ·
Chael showed the way.

I don't think the dude, any dude, has a chance unless they can lay on Silva like a wet blanket for 5 rounds non stop. Plus, they'd have to avoid Anderon's jiu jitsu game, which remains overlooked and under-rated.

Anderson, however and wherever he wants it, unfortunately for the Okami fans. :(
 
#63 ·
The reason Chael almost beat Anderson is because Chael is a psycho with zero fear. Okami is a sloth in comparison, he's going to get absolutely rocked trying to go in for a takedown. Anderson's best weapon is intimidation and the only person not afraid of him at MW is Chael
 
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