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Brandon Saling faces hearing over hate tattoos and criminal record

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#1 ·
Although Mixed Martial Arts is the world's fastest growing sport, and accelerating, there is a learning curve to appreciating it. A minority still view it with a jaundiced eye, as capured famously in Ariel Helwani's interview last year with boxing dinosaur Bob Arum.

"MMA Is Garbage," said Arum. "It’s fans are skinheads. It’s horrible, guys rolling around like homosexuals on the ground ... it is not a sport that shows great, great talent. The guys who throw punches can’t throw a punch to save their ass, when the punches land the guys have no chins. These are not like boxers, they are not trained like boxers."

Thus it is all the more problematic when a fighter shows up at a major event with *********** tattoos, a *********** nickname, and has been convicted of a sex crime.

When Brandon "White Steel" Saling came out on the undercard, two tattoos unmistakably leapt out.

One tattoo is an 88, a Hitler reference. H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, and thus 88 is HH or Heil Hitler. The term is used in greetings and closing comments of letters written by neo-Nazis, much like the word Aloha is used in Hawaiian, and now world culture (but with of course the opposite meaning).

The lighting bolts signify the Schutzstaffel (SS). The SS was one of the most powerful forces in Nazi Germany, fielding nearly 1,000,000 men on the front lines, as a political police, and in the concentration camps. As established in the Nuremberg Trials, the SS was responsible for the vast majority of Nazi war crimes, and in particular was the primary organization which carried out the Holocaust.

Saling is also a sex offender.

BRANDON CURTIS SALING
XXXXX ST
BYESVILLE OH 43723

Age: 25 Birthdate: 1986-01-28 Gender: M
Height: 5 ft. 10 in. Weight: 185
Race/Ethnicity: White

Alias(es): White NMN Steel
Identifying Marks: TATTOO ON ABDOMEN - White Steel; TATTOO ON RIGHT HAND - Stay; TATTOO ON CHEST - Never Scared; TATTOO ON LEFT HAND - Down; TATTOO ON BACK - Sailing; SCAR ON BACK - round with line rt shoulder; TATTOO ON LEFT SHOULDER - B88 with lighting bolt;
Hair Color: Red Eye Color: Green

Offense: gross sexual imposition
Risk Level: High

Offense and Court Details
Statute: 2907.05

According to Ohio state law, Gross Sexual Imposition occurs when a perpetrator forces a party to have sexual contact with another party against their will. The forced sexual contact is not with the offender.

The offender perpetrates this by using force, threatening to use force or intentionally impairing the victim’s judgment. A perpetrator can impair a victim’s judgment by drugging him or him until they reach a state of unconsciousness, allowing the perpetrator to oblige them to engage in sexual activity.

Gross sexual imposition occurs when the victim is younger than thirteen years of age, whether or not the perpetrator is aware of the victim’s real age.

The conviction stems from an incident in October of 2004, when Staling, then 18, was indicted on one count of engaging in unlawful sexual conduct, a first-degree felony, in connection with the **** of a person under 13.

The charges followed an investigation by the Noble County Sheriff's Office into the weekend disappearance of a 12-year-old girl and her 13-year-old sister. According to Noble County Sheriff Landon T. Smith, the girls parents had allowed them to go to an all-night birthday party at a friend's house.

"When the parents went to pick up their daughters, they discovered they had left the party during the night," Smith said. "The suspects allegedly had shown up at the birthday party and asked the girls to go for a ride with them. Then they were not returned to the birthday party." Following an extensive search, Smith said the girls were located in a camper in Stock Township.

Brandon C. Saling and James T. Allen, also 18, who were each charged with **** of a person under 13 years old.

Saling also picked up a domestic violence charge in 2008 and had to serve a further 40 days in jail.

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UFC President Dana White was asked about the tattoos via Twitter:

@KrmtDfrog
@danawhite wtf is the deal with having a neo nazi in one of your organizations? Get that f----- Salin the hell out of there.

@danawhite
we are looking into it. I'm in AUS and just called over there to see if that's true

At the post fight press conference, Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker addressed the issue.

"We had no knowledge about that until someone brought it up to us this evening," said Coker. "It came to our attention during the course of the fights."

"(The Ohio State Athletic Commission is) going to launch a full investigation on Monday. So that's where that's at. As you guys know, the policy for Strikeforce and the UFC is that kind of body art and offensive behavior ... is not going to be allowed.

"We went to the athlete ... He responded, and we're going to investigate further and see what the truth is."

Coker declined to relay how Saling responded, but said he would share the investigation's outcome when it is complete.

Ohio AC Executive Director Bernie Profato, among the most respected commissioners in North America, has contacted the Ohio Attorney General's Office, which will look into the allegations on Monday. Profato said Saling will be notified that he potentially faces suspension of his license, and that he will be given the opportunity to defend himself at a meeting in April.

Although the bout was not on the main card, it was televised nationally as part of the undercard that aired live on Showtime Extreme.

It is fortunate that Saling's opponent, Roger Bowling, was also caucasian. It is also fortunate that Saling lost, via TKO in the second round. Hsd Saling's opponent been black or Jewish or some other group that hate groups hate, the spectacle of a neo Nazi beating a minority in a cage would have been truly bad for the sport, and humanity.
Source.

A child raping Nazi...

Isn't it pretty standard to google someone before hiring them?
 
#7 ·
I can't.


Brown Pride :thumbsup:, White Pride :thumbsdown:


:confused03:

Im not saying this is not worse, but there is a hint of double standard in this...
Yes, because Neo-Nazisim is totally all about promoting pride in one's heritage and is not about promoting one of the most heinous and violent hate groups in all of mankind.


It's totally a double standard against the poor white man!


The white man can't get no justice around here! :(
Nobody is more victimized than the white man in America...IT'S SO TERRIBLE!


I mean, look at all of the black dude's that tote Black Panther tattoos, and no one even says shit to them!

Hell, if a boxer joined the Nation of Islam, it's not like they would try to prevent him from fighting or anything...o wait....that already happened.
 
#5 ·
While I'm not a huge fan of Cain's tattoo there actually is a huge difference between the two tattoos.

Having an 88 tatoo does not only mean that you are proud to be white...which would be weird by itself but it means that you are a supporter of the biggest genocide in the history of humanity. In many european countries you'd get arrested for such an tattoo.

It's really far from being a double standard. Cain's tattoo simply means that he is proud of his heritage. Saling's tattoo means he is a fan of adolf hitler and the SS...I don't think it can get any worse than that.

Give Bowling a bonus for getting that low life scum out of the cage as soon as possible
 
#9 ·
Hard to not offend when you defend a racist, child sex offending scumbag to promote some kind of highly questionable agenda that is completely off base in the first place.

There's a clear difference in supremacy vs pride. And it's not grey at all. Therefore, I have no choice to assume anyone who can't see it is just an ignorant bumpkin.
 
#10 ·
Did i defend it? No...i just raise a lesser issue where someone has something "some people" do find offensive, i dont even give sht about the tattoo honestly, but if Dana White is going to say nobody is allowed a tattoo that is seen as offensive then you have to swing it both ways.

I totally support Salin not fighting on a televised event, he has his beliefs and if he is truly committed to them he will accept that.
 
#11 ·
No you don't. It's not a ******* democracy. It's an elite, privately owned company.

Dana just cut a mullet-toting Mexican for an insensitive, misogynist JOKE.

But in spite of that, let's all pretend that the overt racist, Nazi toting child sexual abuser is a martyr for victimized white males everywhere.


No one with any sort of education or common sense is going to find Cain's tattoo offensive or believe that he's a supremacist....so those cries aren't going to be entertained.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Clearly you have issues...not directly related to anything im saying, putting words into my mouth and assuming sht about what i mean...im a fukin martyr for trolled forumites everywhere....

All i said was Brown Pride :thumbsup: , White Pride :thumbsdown: Did not even mention the "racist, child sex offending scumbag" yet this is me defending him...?

Maybe i should of quoted this part of the main post so people who just skip down without reading sht properly wont get all confused...

Dana White said:
(The Ohio State Athletic Commission is) going to launch a full investigation on Monday. So that's where that's at. As you guys know, the policy for Strikeforce and the UFC is that kind of body art and offensive behavior ... is not going to be allowed.
here

 
#17 ·
Don't want to get in arguments flaming or insults I see the facts as followed.

If what has been said about the guy is true ( which I am 95% sure it is) this guy is a white supremacist and a horrible person.

However there is a double standard on the pride in your race or skin color. In the eyes of the public black pride and brown pride is acceptable when white pride would not be. I think both are horrible as we should focus on the content of the persons character not skin color. In all honesty I dont like the fact that there is a double standard and when i see someone with a brown pride or black pride tattoo it irritates me a little. Hold all three to the same level I say. But, I certainly will never defend a white supremacist.
 
#18 ·
What mma fighters with white pride tattoos have been discriminated against? I'll wait.

Oh and black pride hasn't been a thing since the 70s(go ahead and name the black athletes....in all of their prolific numbers....that have black pride tattoos...again, I'll wait)...but playing the "everyone is out to get me, the white man" card is always fun.


Everyone (completely inapproriately) keeps bringing up this double standard yet I've seen nothing but baseless and paranoid conjecture supporting it.
 
#20 ·
I'm listening.

Still waiting for all the terrible discrimination against white nationalists that warranted the bitching in this thread.

It seems some people will take any chance to whine about minorities.



Is it....is it maybe the fact that 99 percent of white nationalists are not only overtly racist, but violently so that causes such a disdain for them? Maybe the power that an overwhelming majority has when they decide they are going to oppress an entire peoples? N-Nah...that's crazy talk.
 
#21 ·
I'm listening.

Still waiting for all the terrible discrimination against white nationalists that warranted the bitching in this thread.

It seems some people will take any chance to whine about minorities.



Is it....is it maybe the fact that 99 percent of white nationalists are not only overtly racist, but violent that causes such a disdain for them? Maybe the power that an overwhelming majority has when they decide they are going to oppress an entire peoples? N-Nah...that's crazy talk.
Ok well here is a stoy of a 13 year old kid who flies the American flag on his bike to school and was ordered to take it down by the principal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mWdgKyhs30&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
#30 ·
Well he was told to remove it because of racial tensions. Mexican Americans may be offended by the flag.
Mexican Americans have become a an entire race!!



What the students did was horrible however Immature Students and hate groups acting out is alot different than a school principal telling a kid to remove the flag on vetterans day.

For instance me saying a bunch of racist mexicans attacked a white guy isn't significant but a non racist party taking sides is.

Also I am not denying that there isn't hate both ways but I am saying there is a double standard that is present in the majority of cases. You asked for a case so I supplied it.
Are you impaired? Do you seriously not know what a double standard is? A double standard would imply that minority groups are infallible while everyone picks on the poor white man.

What you supplied was not an example of a racial double standard, but a school wanting to avoid another unneeded conflict.

Again, it's easy to go on the Free Republic forums and get a slanted story that makes it seem like everyone is out to get the good ole American boy(what bigotry and closeted racism often leads to), but the real story was this kid wasn't allowed to wear his flag because they were banned.

Period. Kids were complaining because he was infracting upon a rule set when SURPRISE a bunch of arrogant, pompous kids decided to tote American Flags on Cinco De Mayo(because trolling Mexicans on their special day is so funny and original and remember, the white man is ALWAYS the victim!). They banned national flags outright to avoid favouritism and he broke the rule defiantly.


This was a big story because of people like you always trying to play the victim card. They conveniently left out the fact that all flags were banned and made it seem like they did it just because they liked Mexicans and were being "PC" by catering to the minority. In the end of the day, enough screaming hicks got through that they had to reverse there decision....I wonder if Pablo got to wear his flag too? :confused02:

Mind you, this is a school where very limited free speech is applied.

Keep them coming though. I'm enjoying this futile and pathetic effort.
 
#31 ·
In the end of the day, enough screaming hicks got through that they had to reverse there decision....
Way to be overtly racist yourself!

Every race in the world has racists with in it, every race has those who are not. There are double standards all over the world, its just how life is!

I am a white man, and I can say honestly that saying 99% of whites are racist is one of the more racist things I have heard on this forum! My family has never been discriminatory, we were just not raised that way. My grandparents felt the affects of the end of the "Irish Need Not Apply" era. They showed us all how to judge people based on who they are, not where they are from or what they look like. The entire community I grew up in was like that!

With that in mind, the fighter that spurred this conversation, my community would have wanted him dead! Being a child rapist, that is the lowest form of human there is.
 
#27 ·
And now for the other side of the story.

http://aztlan.net/cinco_de_mayo_disrespect.htm

Los Angeles, Alta California - May 7, 2010 - (ACN) The anti-Mexican bigotry and racism that has taken root in the state of Arizona has now spilled over into Northern California. A very ugly racial incident occurred during a Cinco de Mayo event at Live Oak High School in the small town of Morgan Hill located just southeast of San Jose. It appears that a group of bigoted White students in cahoots with some racist community members conspired to disrupt the Cinco de Mayo celebration at the school on Wednesday. The festive celebration was being held as a cultural awareness event on behalf of the general student population.

The event included festive Mexican decorations and a professional folklorico dance group but unfortunately it also included White racist teachers confiscating Mexican flags from the students. Mexican-American student Laura Ponce, a freshman, reported that a White school administrator had taken away the Mexican flag she was carrying as she was waiting to go home. Laura Ponce also reported that some White football jocks were yelling, "Mexico sucks!" Other Mexican-American students also reported that their flags were taken away.

When Mexican-American students complained to administrators that a group of football jocks wearing US flag bandanas and t-shirts were being disrespectful, Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez took steps to disarm a potentially explosive situation. It was apparent that the ill-mannered football jocks were instigating trouble. Both the assistant principal and the principal told the jocks that they should turn their t-shirts inside-out or be sent home.

A parent of two Mexican-American students, Teresa Casillas, said the American-flag wearing jocks were yelling "We live in America!" at the brunch break. She said her children were upset by their behavior at school, calling it disrespectful. "We're all offended by it," Casillas said. She said parents of all ethnicities she spoke with felt that way. "Morgan Hill is too small of a community to start any racial wars. This is just bringing it out a little bit more."

Yesterday, approximately 200 Mexican-American students walked out of school to march across town to the school district's headquarters. The students were yelling in unison, "We want respect!" and "Si se puede!" The Mexican-American students felt the White jocks were being disrespectful on the only day they celebrate their heritage. The student march was followed by pretty much the entire predominantly White police force of Morgan Hill.

Unfortunately, District Superintendent Wesley Smith and Assistant Superintendent Jay Totter, both who are White, are siding with the jocks and their parents against Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez who is Mexican-American. The 7 member Board of Education is also all White. Today, a group of Morgan Hill Tea-Baggers were demanding that the school district fire Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez, one of a very few professional educators in the district available to assure the protection of Mexican-American students from bias, discrimination, racism and bigotry that exists in the Morgan Hill community. The entire Mexican-American community of California should keep a very close eye on this developing situation
Ah, isn't it great when everyone has an agenda?
 
#24 · (Edited)
Everything else aside this guy is a sex offender of children I want this dude gone.

Also please be careful about double/triple posting, you can always add to your previous posts using the "edit" tool :)

Edit: that is not to say I condone racism but that is secondary as a reason I want him fired.
 
#35 ·
Do people really not see the difference between someone having a Hail Hitler tattoo, and a brown pride tattoo or are we just are arguing for arguments sake?

Because I'm pretty sure Cain would be cool hanging out with a person of any race, while someone with neo-nazi affiliation would not be. Thus the double standard.

Anyway the guy also has sexually abused children, so excuse me if I don't shed a tear for the injustice.
 
#37 ·
Argument is not about him. Everyone has said this guy is a racist a horrible person and should go to hell. The thread turned into an argument about a double standard in society in a situation like not being able to display an American flag because of the fear that it might offend mexicans.
 
#41 ·
on a side note from the Saling case (in which there is clearly no defending a man who has a conviction as a sex offender and neo-nazi tattoos)
whats everybodys thoughts on a white skinhead fighting in a cage with WHITE PRIDE tattooed in huge letters across his chest? it would create abit of a talking point wouldn't it?
 
#45 ·
There was a whole article on this awhile back. Fascinating stuff. Go watch Romper Stomper, American History X, Malcolm X, it's all prevalent around the world. The crazy thing is I think I've met all people off all cultures and I can say this there are sour apples in every ethnical group, but majority are koo as long as you give em respects. It's that simple.

All everybody needs to do is blaze and watch the space channel. I'm dead serious once they realize how much more there is to us as human beings living on this beautiful planet Earth they'll realize how trivial and innocuous racism is and this is coming from a guy who is mildly racist...hah...hah. I have preconceived notions of certain groups, but I know better than to judge em.


 
#48 ·
This thread needs more arguing over hypothetical double standards.


Anyway, Bellator also had this guy on one of their cards. And it seems like he's fought in quite a few states. I'm just a bit surprised, because I know commissions ask applicants for fight licenses about criminal history, and say character is a factor in their decision.

So either he told the truth, and a package of forcing someone under 13 to have sex and domestic violence doesn't disqualify you, OR commissions are really big on the honor system and nobody checks to see if you lied.

I guess he could have told them he turned his life around, but if he actually had, you'd think he'd get rid of the tattoos. Plus, he had the domestic violence case after he got out of prison, so it's not like he reformed in prison and has been squeaky clean since then.
 
#50 ·
Update:

After a brief investigation, Brandon Saling's license has been revoked by the Ohio Athletic Commission and New Jersey State Athletic Control Board.

OAC executive director Bernie Profato told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that Saling (8-6 MMA, 0-1 SF) violated administrative statutes when he lied about his criminal background on an application for a fight license.

Saling can appeal the ruling at a OAC hearing planned for April 11.

"There's a dual thing there," Profato said. "He'll have to answer to the falsification, and two, if you read the law, it says they don't have to license you for a felony. Now, it will be whether they ever license him again because of being listed as a sexual predator."

Saling's status as a sex offender and felon came to light when he fought Roger Bowling (11-2 MMA, 4-2 SF) at this past weekend's "Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey." (He lost via second-round TKO.) Following the event, Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said he wasn't aware of Saling's background and told reporters the OAC would launch a "full investigation" into the matter.

Profato said Saling marked "no" on the part of his application for a license that asks about previous convictions beyond traffic offenses. The fighter was sent notice this morning that his license had been revoked. The administrative action will be noted on a national database that tracks administrative and medical suspensions of fighters.

If Saling is unsuccessful in appealing the revocation, he must wait a year before he is eligible to reapply for a license in Ohio. Other commissions are not required to honor his administrative suspension, though they often do.

Fighters who seek a license are required to disclose their criminal past in several states that sanction MMA. But the sheer volume of licensees make it difficult to catch discrepancies such as in the case of Saling.

"I've got 4,000 fighters," he said. "I'm going to look at them, and if we catch something – I'm not saying we wouldn't have missed this. But once it's brought to your attention, you would take action.

"If it's homicide or sexual predator, or if you're applying for a promoter's license and it's fraud, or theft in office, you probably aren't going to get licensed."

Saling, who bears a tattoo of his nickname, "White Steel," declined comment when contacted today by MMAjunkie.com. He carries an 8-6 record and hadn't fought for Strikeforce prior to Saturday. He fought twice for the Ohio-based NAAFS promotion in January and February, winning both professional bouts.

Coker declined comment on today's ruling.
Source
 
#51 ·
Not sure what to think of this. On one hand everyone has a right to their opinion, even neo-nazis and other unpleasant people but on the other hand I really can't stand them. I'm usually very tolerant when it comes to stuff like this (e.g. people who wear Che Guevara shirts or red stars) but nazis really piss me off to no end. Don't know, might just be because I'm German and my Grandpa told me stories from back then.
 
#56 · (Edited)
Are we to feel sorry for this guy? Or anybody else who refuses to live by the laws of society?

You do realize that he and his buddy, both 18 or older, kidnapped a 12 year old and a 13 year old girl and raped them. This will surely have lasting affects on those 2 girls that I can not, and would not want to, comprehend. Those 2 girls lives will NEVER be normal, and they may never be able to trust any men that may come into their lives.

So with that in mind, should we as a society just accept that he went to jail and afford him all the opportunities that everybody else in society are afforded? I vote NO!
 
#53 ·
His license got revoked *shocked face*

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/6/2849849/convicted-sex-offender-brandon-saling-license-revoked

Brandon Saling's Fighter License Revoked For Failure To Disclose Past Sex Crime, Domestic Violence Charges
by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 6, 2012 4:25 PM EST in Strikeforce News

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In a major update to a story we've been following since uncovering the information during the Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey event, Brandon Saling, a convicted sex offender with a tattoo featuring Neo-Nazi symbolism, has had his fighter license suspended. In our original coverage we touched on how Saling's "88" tattoo is symbolic for "Heil Hitler" (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet) and followed that up with information about Saling being convicted in the sexual assault of a girl under 13 and a domestic violence conviction some years later.

It appears that Saling failed to disclose those convictions when applying for his license and, thus, is in a good deal of trouble with the state and it is unlikely he ever fights again Luke Thomas broke the news over at MMA Fighting a short time ago:

After causing a stir on Saturday at Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey, welterweight Brandon Saling's tenure in Strikeforce was short-lived. It turns out there may also not be much time left in his mixed martial arts career. According to commissioner Bernie Profato of the Ohio Athletic Commission (OAC), Saling's fighter license has been revoked.

Profato told MMA Fighting Saling falsified information on his application for a license by failing to disclose he had "ever been convicted of a crime other than a traffic offense". The ommission puts Saling in violation of Administrative Code 3773-1-09, clause F, of the bylaws governing MMA in Ohio, which states a fighter's license can be suspended or revoked if he or she "has violated any law with respect to any sports regulated by the commission or any rule or order of the commission or has been convicted of a felony."

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"Obviously this guy is never going to fight for us again," UFC President Dana White told MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani. "For this guy to ever get licensed again he'd have to go before a hearing for the athletic commissions and I find it hard to believe that this guy will ever be licensed again. He better go find another job."
This should put an end to any of the debate over the "he served his time, let him fight" vs. "convicted sex offenders with Nazi symbolism aren't good for promotions or TV" nonsense. Saling was clearly covering up his past in an attempt to build a fighting career and thus was putting promotions in jeopardy of significant damage to their reputation.

You don't just "forget" that you spent time in jail for **** and domestic violence.
 
#55 ·
Having a Tattoo saying white pride - Should be OK, but it isn't. It is considered OK to have "brown pride" tattooed on you, and thus the same standard should apply. Unfortunatly, 99% of people who have a white pride tattoo have it for its racist implications. Hopefully in the future this will no longer be the case, but as it stands, white pride tattoos are a terrible idea.

Having tattoos with Nazi meanings - Having tattoos supporting the greatest war crime in history and the perpetrator of said crimes is just silly. Is he really in favor of the gassing of 6 million jews? I doubt it. It is just a stupid idea of an angry and confused young man. I think a lot of the people with Nazi related tattoos probably don't have that much of an idea of what the Nazi's actually stood for, and instead is just an expression of their hatred for other races. All that being said, Nazi related tattoos are completely unnacceptable and no pro sports league should permit an athlete with these tats.

Kidnapping and raping underage girls - Are you ******* kidding me? This guy shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere but Mcdonalds, whilst wearing a T-Shirt saying "Pedophile. Beware." Strikeforce seriosly fucked up here. It doesn't matter how good a fighter this guy is, boot him out of the organisation quickly.
 
#57 ·
Having a Tattoo saying white pride - Should be OK, but it isn't. It is considered OK to have "brown pride" tattooed on you, and thus the same standard should apply. Unfortunatly, 99% of people who have a white pride tattoo have it for its racist implications. Hopefully in the future this will no longer be the case, but as it stands, white pride tattoos are a terrible idea.

Having tattoos with Nazi meanings - Having tattoos supporting the greatest war crime in history and the perpetrator of said crimes is just silly. Is he really in favor of the gassing of 6 million jews? I doubt it. It is just a stupid idea of an angry and confused young man. I think a lot of the people with Nazi related tattoos probably don't have that much of an idea of what the Nazi's actually stood for, and instead is just an expression of their hatred for other races. All that being said, Nazi related tattoos are completely unnacceptable and no pro sports league should permit an athlete with these tats.

Kidnapping and raping underage girls - Are you ******* kidding me? This guy shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere but Mcdonalds, whilst wearing a T-Shirt saying "Pedophile. Beware." Strikeforce seriosly fucked up here. It doesn't matter how good a fighter this guy is, boot him out of the organisation quickly.
I'm still looking for proof behind this idiotic idea for an alleged double standard.


I'd imagine, like I said, if a white athlete, he'd incur just as much incessant bitching as Cain did for his Brown Pride tattoo....but it's a joke to even act like Cain's tattoo is normal. You don't see shit like that typically.


With the few white fighters that have something like that, it's usually the fact that they are admitted racists and accompany that with Nazi imagery that pisses people off.

But then again anyone too simple to understand the difference between a minority toting a phrase used during a time where historically, they were treated like second rate citizens, and emphasizes growth of the race being compared to a phrase that has been historically associated with these guys



should probably just smash their keyboards over their heads repeatedly and see if they somehow gain the ability to think.





Are we to feel sorry for this guy? Or anybody else who refuses to live by the laws of society?

You do realize that he and his buddy, both 18 or older, kidnapped a 12 year old and a 13 year old girl and raped them. This will surely have lasting affects on those 2 girls that I can not, and would not want to, comprehend. Those 2 girls lives will NEVER be normal, and they may never be able to trust any men that may come into their lives.

So with that in mind, should we as a society just accept that he went to jail and afford him all the opportunities that everybody else in society are afforded? I vote NO!
I don't recall expressing any empathy for this man whatsoever...so...
 
#59 ·
Ooooh! A big unnecessary graph of irrelevant information! You got me there!

Oh, and probably because BET was founded in 1980, which was like...maybe 10 years after blacks had gained civil rights, and they felt they needed a network that would prominently display them on television....seeing as, according to your fancy little graph there, they are a mere 15 percent of the population on average.

Also, I attempted to humor you despite your absolute complete lack of intellect and research this so called shut down of White Entertainment Television...guess, what...it's F***ING FICTIONAL. If you had any smidgen of intellectual ******* curiosity, you'd realize that when you read news on "The Spoof" it's probably not ******* real. No REAL company would make a White Entertainment Television....it's entirely redundant, would only appeal to overt racists, and the Country Music Channel already exists.

After that, I could explain why affirmative action exists, (the idea is very simple, actually, albeit controversial) but that would simply be a waste of time considering anyone with any desire not be an ignorant bumpkin can simply do the research himself. Which....albeit may be a little MORE difficult when you have a closed-mind as a result of living in such a historically WARM, OPEN MINDED, and PROGRESSIVE city such as Memphis, Tennessee....not sarcasm...obviously.

Again, more paranoid delusions. Please do me a favour and report to your boss that a black man called you cracker....if he says "It's okay Jim! That's not racist, it's okay!" I'll personally organize a "Free the white man" campaign across America for the injustices committed against them.

Here in civilization, that black man would be fired. Shocking!

Here in the real world, a professional black man hasn't called a white man cracker and escaped with his head in.....ever. But wait, a comedian said it! That must mean that it's universally okay for blacks to say cracker! A white comedian might say that n-word....but then some black people might be offended by it so he'll shy away. Why might he be offended by it?!!? You ask?!?! Maybe because when he was 7 years old he was marching down the streets with his family and white people were shouting at him while throwing rocks, bricks and spitting at him...then they got sprayed by fire hoses! Maybe it strikes a little more to home with him then a "slur" used against whites to indicate that their ancestors were dominant over them?
Nah! Seems far-fetched.

But wait! I do remember a white comedian using the word!

Oh wait! That's not a joke! That's a racial tirade and he even threw in a lynching reference to boot! Poor white man....no one understands his sense of humor. :(

And look at the racist black people getting away with calling him a cracker. They didn't even report that in the story! It's biased I tell you!

But um...nice irrelevant rant there. Now we can actually go back to the issue at hand instead of you closeted racists grasping at straws.
 
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People are still bothering with this goof? Was my warning about his complete and utter inability to accept or even entertain the opinions of others not clear? Is it not obvious that he cannot help but act a smarmy, condescending turd whenever someone doesn't subscribe to his take on the world? Run... run quickly, before the blob of douchiness envelops us all!

Unless you'd much rather stick around and be dubbed a racist purely because you disagree. Because, you know, that's how things work in this guy's world.
 
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