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The new Gegard Mousasi vs Jon Jones

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#1 ·
Gegard Mousasi we know he is one the best strikers in MMA, has a great ground game and has great killer instinct with many first round wins. He has held the Strikeforce and Dream titles, Fought K1 bouts being a huge underdog and won decisively. Mousasi and Overeem single handedly made ignorant kickboxing fans recognise that top MMA strikers are world class. I just read on Wiki that he is also going to try out for the 2012 Olympics for Holland in boxing.

He then ran into King Mo Lawal who defeated him with wrestling. If you watch the fight Mousasi actually put a beating on King Mo off his back. He has a very active guard like Pettis.
Mousasi recently fought Ovince st preux where pundits backed Ovince because of his excellent wrestling and stated that is a weakness for Mousasi. When the fight came Mousasi put a wrestling clinic on Ovince just after training with Romanian olympic wrestlers for one training camp, cant remember where I heard this.

He has recently stated for the first time he is getting modern coaches for MMA for conditioning, weight cutting etc. I expect big improvements considering his previous MMA training is very outdated, maybe similiar to Rich Franklin back in Ufc 50/60s. MMA training has evolved leaps from that time.

I ask because on the LHW challengers, I can only see Mousasi having the tools to defeat Jones.
Rashad and Hendo only have a very small chance for me.

The main question is one year from now if Jon Jones is still champion how would the fight play out?
 
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#3 ·
In a K1 fight, Mousasi takes it 100/100. In a BJJ match, probably 85/100. In an MMA fight... I'd say Jones by decision 100/100 (right now).

I don't think Jones would do any damage at all to Moose, but he'd definitely win in an MMA fight. Mousasi looked great against OSP in terms of wrestling improvement, but we'll see if he's still training that hard. The guy is an absolute stud but trains by fooling around a few times a week.
 
#6 ·
I agree with you if they fought right now apart from the BJJ bit. I would say Mousasi just edges Jones on BJJ. How many elite fighters get caught in a standing guillotine nowadays. The Machida sub was incredible.
I actually picked Machida to win that fight by close decision. It was after that fight I thought Mousasi is the only challenger who can beat him.

Mousasi was training sub par but I believe him when he says he will train like modern day elite fighters after the OSP fight.
Imagine the guy properly equipped with a modern training camp he should instantly be a better fighter and if his wrestling has improved massively from bringing Olympic calibre in one camp then he could have GSP level improvement when he focused on wrestling.

Also respect to you for having Saki in your Sig.
 
#4 ·
I think people really underestimate Jones' grappling. His active unorthodox striking style coupled with his ridiculous reach is more than enough for any fighter in the UFC. I believe in a year from now he will still be champ. He is still a couple years from his peak so he only gets better.

I could see this match happening next year since JBJ will have cleared most, if not all of the UFC LHWs out by then.
 
#7 ·
I don't think people realize how talented The Dream Catcher is. He poses an interesting matchup...one I'd very much like to see. I also wanted to see him vs Anderson Silva at one point.

Meanwhile Gustaf is a legitimate threat although I don't think he's strong enough to withstand JBJ. He should be able to TKO Thiago Silva or win a UD.

So...I think what's going to happen is this.

Either JBJ beats Rashad, Hendo, Gegard, Gustaf, Shogun x 2, Machida x 2 and cleans out the division.

Then The Spider comes in and either defeats em or passes the torch to em.
 
#12 ·
Mousasi has been so overrated over the years.

Does he have skills? Yea.

Will he be a top 5 LHW. No.

His wrestling sucks. He gassed in teh 2nd round in a 5 round fight defending his title. Although he won the fight, he recently went to a draw with Jardine. He went to a decision vs. OSP.

Jones would handle him. And handle him bad. Mousasi has a record mostly full of cans.

He is young though.
 
#15 ·
Jones would use his Greco Roman wrestling to take Gegard down and beat him up with elbows until he either submits him or gets the TKO.

Gegard is a great fighter, but jones physical attributes would make it very difficult for Mousasi to really mount any type of offense.

I still say Hendo has the best chance to beat Jones, but even that is a stretch.
 
#16 · (Edited)
I like mousasi, but the truth is he hasn't fought any top notch opponents.

All the best LHW's are in the UFC, not much talent outside that to be real, and he's been fighting the best he can but it doesn't come close to finishing Shogun, Rampage, and Machida...Gegard, like Gustafson and Davis, need a little bit of time before they can challenge a guy like Jones at this point.

I do think that out of those 3, the best candidate to beat Jones is Gegard. Gegard to me is a very smart fighter, he will make Jones fight his fight, but you have to be careful otherwise he'll choke you unconscious :/
 
#19 ·
He has recently stated for the first time he is getting modern coaches for MMA for conditioning, weight cutting etc. I expect big improvements considering his previous MMA training is very outdated, maybe similiar to Rich Franklin back in Ufc 50/60s. MMA training has evolved leaps from that time.

I ask because on the LHW challengers, I can only see Mousasi having the tools to defeat Jones.
Rashad and Hendo only have a very small chance for me.
If he's doing one, it's likely meaning he'll be dropping to MW where he belongs.
 
#28 ·
Have to agree with a few others in this thread. As much as I like the guy, I don't see Mousasi - who fought to a draw with a more than shot Keith Jardine - having any sort of chance against Jon Jones. In fact, I'd dare say that the last few fighters Jones has straight up stomped would beat Mousasi (Shogun, Machida, and perhaps even Jackson, presuming he used his wrestling).
 
#29 ·
Mousasi has a ton of potential and is extremely talented...but he`s definitely not the guy I would pick to beat Jones. Not now at least...He went to a draw with Jardine and his last two wins are against mid-level fighters at best. I would like to see him in the UFC against a top 10 LHW.
 
#34 ·
Gegard has gotten this far on talent alone he would be an absolute animal if he joined with a great camp, for him to be as good as he is now with a major lack of coaching is unreal.What Mousasi needs to do is move his family to U.S. join a legitimate camp and then joins the UFC,Break the so called Champs chicken legs.
LOL to all the Haters who actually think the Jardine fight means anything, Jardine got out struck 146 to 21 and Mousasi was brushing up on his ground game while having the flu.
 
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