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Chael Sonnen would beat Anderson Silva in a kickboxing match

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#1 ·
That's what he says. :)



The biggest UFC fight of 2012 is just three and a half weeks away. It takes place July 7, when Anderson Silva defends his UFC middleweight title against nemesis Chael Sonnen.

Sonnen is the biggest and most unabashed trash-talker in the UFC (or any sport, for that matter), and he's beginning to ratchet up his verbal assault on Silva as the fight draws closer. In a two-minute preview video released by the UFC, Sonnen says he'll beat Silva no matter where the fight goes:

Make it a boxing match. I'll find a way to win. Make it a kickboxing match. I'll find a way to win. I'm not gonna play a dance-off with him. But if he wants to make it a combative mansport, I'll do it. Make it a jiu-jitsu match, make it a wrestling match, make it an MMA fight. It doesn't matter. He doesn't have anything that I, as an athlete, won't conquer. I'm a competitor. I will find a way to win, like I always do.

First of all, I'd like to congratulate Sonnen for creating the new word "mansport." I'll be using that one in plenty of stories I write in the future, so I offer a hearty thanks to West Linn's best for giving me new material.

As for the rest of the quote? I have no doubt that if Sonnen would do very well in a grappling match with Silva. He's one of the best wrestlers in mixed martial arts, after all, and we all saw what Sonnen was capable of during the first fight with Silva. Sonnen is a destructive, grinding force when he puts your back against the ground.

But we also saw one of Sonnen's biggest weaknesses during the first Silva bout: His sketchy submission defense. And it wasn't just the Silva bout that exposed that weak point. Of Sonnen's 11 career losses, 8 have come by submission. Defending submissions has never been his strong suit.

Sonnen, of course, has been known to say outlandish things in the interest of hyping a fight, and this is likely more of the same. But the idea of Silva vs. Sonnen in a grappling/jiu-jitsu match is certainly an intriguing one, isn't it?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ould-beat-anderson-silva-in-a-jiu-jitsu-match

Gee I wonder if this will get much hate?

yay mansport
 
#4 ·
Well he did nearly put Anderson on his ass with the first punch he landed in the first fight so it's not like it's out of the realm of possibility.

Sorry Anderson, Chael won't just sit there like Leites, Okami, Vitor, and the rest of the cans you've fought.
 
#11 ·
His loss to Forest was in 2003. Should I bring up andersons losses to Daiju Takase and Ryo Chonan?

Marquardt is not overrated, 3 out of his last four losses are to Anderson, Sonnen, and Okami. The other was a close split decision to Leites. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Anderson obliterated Maia? He made a fool of himself in that fight. He was gassed in the later rounds and decided to act like an idiot.

Hendo won round one against Anderson, sure Anderson got the sub in the second but its not like he brutilized Hendo before that.

That front kick against Belfort was a good kick, but lets get real, how many times in a lifetime does one fighter win with that kick? I think a e-match would be much more competitive.

But lets not discredit these guys wins, they are both fighting the top guys in the division.

Anderson has had parts of his title run where he has not faced the best comp. He faces Cote and Leites back to back. You beat who the UFC put in front of you and if you can do that then great.
 
#19 ·
Anderson obliterated Maia? He made a fool of himself in that fight. He was gassed in the later rounds and decided to act like an idiot.
After casually beating him stupid for three rounds and getting disgusted when he refused to engage.

Hendo won round one against Anderson, sure Anderson got the sub in the second but its not like he brutilized Hendo before that.
Did you see round two? He mulched Hendo in round two. Stuffed him, rocked him, and finished him. How many others have managed that?

That front kick against Belfort was a good kick, but lets get real, how many times in a lifetime does one fighter win with that kick? I think a e-match would be much more competitive.
It was a good kick but the most impressive part was Anderson dodging a full speed Belfort combo at close range like he was god damned Neo. Their is absolutely no indication the rematch would be different. In fact Belfort's history says otherwise. He breaks mentally when he can't blitz his opponent and he knows he can't blitz Anderson.

But lets not discredit these guys wins, they are both fighting the top guys in the division.

Anderson has had parts of his title run where he has not faced the best comp. He faces Cote and Leites back to back. You beat who the UFC put in front of you and if you can do that then great.
You spend an most of your post discrediting some of Anderson's best wins and then you say this. This is exactly the same as spending a post talking about how women are less intelligent than men, giving examples, and then saying "But let's not be sexist". It doesn't actually hide the fact that that is exactly what you are doing.

Anderson doesn't choose his opponents. He fights whoever is put in front of him. Chael does the same. Discrediting either person's victories is stupid and undermines everything fans of either man actually respect. So please stop doing it.

Back on topic - Chael would die in a kickboxing or boxing match with Anderson but you can't expect him to say it. Just like Anderson would lose a wrestling match with him. The biggest question is who gives a rat's ass? Are they going to have a boxing match? No. It's more of the same pointless attempt at hype from Chael.
 
#6 ·
This just illustrates why the Sonnen fight was so much more competitive than any of Anderson's other title defenses - Sonnen is one of the few fighters he's faced in the UFC who isn't afraid of him.

Of course Sonnen doesn't have much of a chance against Silva in a kickboxing match, and I'm sure he knows it. I'm also sure that if he had to, he'd go in there and do his level best to stand with Silva, and it would look a lot less embarrassing than Vitor (a guy who does have a chance in a kickboxing match on paper) Standing there and getting kicked in the face.
 
#8 ·
This is just Sonnen being confident in his abilities. He beleives he is a great fighter and he is a great fighter. Could he beat Anderson in a kickboxing match? No, and Sonnen knows that. Can Anderson beat Sonnen in a wrestling match, No. Problem is this is not a kickboxing match and Sonnen is not going into the fight to strike with Anderson and this is not a wrestling match and Anderson is not going into this fight to wrestle with Sonnen.

So it all comes down to who can impose their will.

In order for Anderson to hit Sonnen he has to get close to Sonnen. This will give Sonnen the oppertunity to get his hands on Anderson and once he does Anderson is going down.
 
#14 ·
I was thinking how he'd fair against wandy under a modified striking only match.

Against silva under such rules... I dunno if chael is Irish or not, but he'd get kilt. :p
 
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#20 ·
Im a hugeeee Chael Sonnen supporter but even i find it funny that he says "Il find a way to win" when it was Anderson Silva who was getting the sht kicked out of him and then "Found a way to win" even though he received quiet the ass beating. I mean the first round was 10-8,10-9,10-9,10-9,4 minutes- 10-9, ALL Chael, and then Anderson Silva wins. It was the BEST come from behind victory in all of MMA. I dont think il see anything that epic ever again. Good Conquered evil in the end after all seems lost just like in the movies. That fight was the real life MMA version of Rocky.
 
#22 ·
...I often wondered how Anderson would do in K-1 or something. Silva's Muay Thai is perhaps the best in MMA. On the feet, Sonnen would get pounced badly. Anderson is at or near the top in head & foot movement. The best in timing his strikes. The most accurate striker in UFC history. List goes on. When they meet, it's not just kickboxing. Chael's Takedowns are some of the very best. It's his greatest strength. Something that can change any outcome in a fight. Without question Chael's Takedowns pose the biggest threat to Anderson...
 
#29 ·
Life B Ez - how is it being best 2 out of 3 make it like the WWE? He was proposing a 3 round competition - like mma is now - with one round of kickboxing, one round of bjj, and one round of wrestling. There's really nothing WWE about that. It sounds interesting in an exhibition kind of way.
 
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